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NYC Actress' Slaying Teaches Hard Crime Lesson
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Posted on 02/04/2005 7:20:48 AM PST by Jenya

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To: Vaquero

In the Soviet Socialist Republic of NYC you cannot even own and store a long gun in your home legally...when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns...


21 posted on 02/04/2005 7:34:30 AM PST by DigiTeach1
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To: kenth

Sounds like George Costaza.....


22 posted on 02/04/2005 7:36:26 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Richard Kimball

Typical liberal: Gee somebody should help the poor man that shot her. It was a murder.
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That's not my take on this line of the story. My dad's common sense thinking comes to mind...don't pi$$ off the person holding a gun on you.


23 posted on 02/04/2005 7:36:45 AM PST by dmz
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To: Jenya
Jeffrey Sparks, his face still bruised, told reporters Thursday he didn't see his fiancee get shot. But he heard the gunfire and turned to find her on the ground.

What a coward. Typical metrosexual don't-want-to-get-involved wuss. Left his girl to face the thugs. Real nice, Jeff.

24 posted on 02/04/2005 7:37:16 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: Richard Kimball

The shooter "felt (!) he wasn't getting the respect he was due"... What exactly makes Lenhardt think he was "due" any respect?!


25 posted on 02/04/2005 7:37:38 AM PST by sarasota
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To: kenth

Limp-wristed libturd no doubt. All about gun control for sure. What a pissant. Next thing, he'll be blaming the cops for not knowing that this was going on.


26 posted on 02/04/2005 7:38:19 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: rabidralph

On second thought, what do you expect when feminists have been telling us for 30 years that they don't need any help from men.


27 posted on 02/04/2005 7:39:02 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: DigiTeach1

Not true....In NYC you need a permit for a long or hand gun.

the rest of the state no permit for a long gun. but you need a permit for a hangun....

almost no people can get full carry for NYC....a full concealed carry in the rest of the state is good throughout the whole state with the exception of NYC.


28 posted on 02/04/2005 7:39:07 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Jenya

Well no wonder she got shot. Look at all of the trouble she caused the police department. She provoked the gunman. That will certainly come up at his trial (if it gets that far). We once had a police officer give a presentation to a civic group on how to be a good victim. Must be a lot easier to interview a victim than to investigate a violent crime.


29 posted on 02/04/2005 7:43:00 AM PST by FreePaul
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I've got two words for New Yackers. Concealed Carry. When they get serious about crime, crime will end!

New york City is series about crime which is why it has one of the lowest homicide rates and one of the lowest overall crime rates of any big city in the United States. (I don't know where NYC stands in comparison to other big cities that allow concealed carry.) Don't get me wrong, I live in the NYC burbs, I'm pro 2nd Amendment, and I have a concealed carry permit (which is valid just about any place in NY State other than NYC), but I'm not about to claim that concealed carry would eliminate crime or that its even a good idea in all places and under any circumstance.

30 posted on 02/04/2005 7:44:39 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: kenth

That was the impression I got while watching an interview with this guy this morning. I agree that if she'd had her own gun (and known how to use it), things would have likely turned out differently--but this guy ran, leaving her behind? Sheesh.


31 posted on 02/04/2005 7:45:43 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Jenya
I don't mean to dump on this guy, because I have no idea how I would respond myself in that situation. But hopefully I would not have run away leaving my fiance behind.

DuFresne's fiance, Jeffrey Sparks, his face still bruised, told reporters Thursday he didn't see his fiancee get shot. But he heard the gunfire and turned to find her on the ground.

"I ran to her .....

From these statements it would appear that Jeffrey was in the process of getting the hell out of there when his girl was shot.

Why else would he need to 'turn' around to see her shot and then 'run' to her.

Is this guy related to John Kerry?

32 posted on 02/04/2005 7:46:06 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Labyrinthos
I appreciate your comments, but this is just one more woman who would be alive today, if hoodlums knew they stood a good chance of looking down the barrels of seven guns when they pulled this crap. The perp should have been dead at the seen of the crime.

Then there's the argument of whether these people would have taken advantage of concealed carry. The option should be there. When guns are banned, only the criminals will have them. What is so hard to comprehend about the truth of this?

Criminals go unopposed because the rats in the human experiment are too timid.
33 posted on 02/04/2005 7:49:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Jenya

That guy Sparks is a piece of work.


34 posted on 02/04/2005 7:49:56 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Jenya

Safety advocates?

"If only we were all tied up and naked, we'd be safe!"

Safety is a good pistol plus the will and the skill to use it.


35 posted on 02/04/2005 7:49:56 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Jenya

"DuFresne...was leaving a bar with her fiance and another couple at about 3 a.m. Jan. 27 when they were accosted..."

Anyone know if she was intoxicated? It might explain why she was so confrontational.

I feel for this poor girl, but you don't argue with a robber holding a gun on you.


36 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:15 AM PST by DemforBush
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To: Vaquero

Mea Culpa...should have added w/out a permit...which you need just to PURCHASE a long gun in NYC...I come from an adjoining state with plenty of gun laws, yet, you still don't have to have a permit to have a gun in your HOUSE...


37 posted on 02/04/2005 8:04:10 AM PST by DigiTeach1
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To: Labyrinthos
....but I'm not about to claim that concealed carry would eliminate crime or that its even a good idea in all places and under any circumstance.

Oh please explain to me just where you wouldn't let me carry to protect my life! And, it's already been proven by studies that concealed carry DOES, in fact, reduce crime.

38 posted on 02/04/2005 8:06:13 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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They beat the crap out of him before shooting her. I doubt he was really in any position to do anything, but still feels guilty about it.
39 posted on 02/04/2005 8:06:45 AM PST by wmichgrad ("The man is insane. He has lost his mind" Rush Limbaugh 1/28/05 re: Sen. Kennedy's remarks on Iraq)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

See # 39.


40 posted on 02/04/2005 8:08:02 AM PST by wmichgrad ("The man is insane. He has lost his mind" Rush Limbaugh 1/28/05 re: Sen. Kennedy's remarks on Iraq)
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