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Jewish settlers left strong imprint in the Rio Grande Valley
Brownsville Herald ^ | 12-7-05 | Travis M. Whitehead

Posted on 02/06/2005 6:34:55 AM PST by SJackson

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To: blam

"Then, in 1985, he made a startling announcement to the world: the discovery in Amazonas of a vast ancient metropolis that may prove to be not only the largest pre-Columbian city in South America, but also one of the largest and most unique ancient cities yet discovered in the history of archaeology."

I can understand how I missed this the first time around; I was awfully busy riding a guided-missile destroyer here and there in 1985.

I'm surprised, though, that I never heard of it in succeeding years.

Down toward the bottom of that page, Savoy starts looking an awful lot like...well, an oddball.

Are his discoveries on the up and up? Peer reviewed and all that?


41 posted on 02/07/2005 6:09:11 PM PST by dsc
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To: Marano NYC; rmlew

Let's also not forget that a large portion of the Polish nobility, perhaps a majority, had Jewish lineage. It was common practice for socially prominent Jews in Poland to convert in order to intermarry into the elite.


42 posted on 02/07/2005 6:11:58 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Fiddlstix; Cacique

There were also Jewish "gauchos" in Argentina. The first wave of Jewish immigrants to that country were part of a resettlement program which brought them out to the Pampas.


43 posted on 02/07/2005 6:13:56 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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44 posted on 02/07/2005 6:24:24 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: dsc
You probably didn't hear about this one then. Sean Savoy is Gene's son.

Ancient city found in remote Peru jungle

Walled complex may have been home to 10,000 people

By Marco Aquino
Updated: 9:45 p.m. ET Aug. 17, 2004

LIMA, Peru - An ancient walled city complex inhabited some 1,300 years ago by a culture later conquered by the Incas has been discovered deep in Peru's Amazon jungle, explorers said on Tuesday.

U.S. and Peruvian explorers uncovered the city, which may have been home to up to 10,000 people, after a month trekking in Peru's northern rain forest and following up on years of investigation about a possible lost metropolis in the region.

The stone city, made up of five citadels at 9,186 feet (2,800 meters) above sea level, stretches over around 39 square miles (100 square kilometers) and contains walls covered in carvings and figure paintings, exploration leader Sean Savoy told Reuters.

"It is a tremendous city ... containing areas with stone etchings and 10-meter (33-foot) high walls," said Savoy, who had to hack through trees and thick foliage to finally reach the site on Aug. 15.

Covered in matted tree branches and interspersed with lakes and waterfalls, the settlement sites also contain well-preserved graveyards with mummies with teeth "in almost perfect condition," Savoy said.

Replete with stone agricultural terraces and water canals, the city complex is thought to have been home to the little-known Chachapoyas culture.

According to early accounts by Spanish conquistadors who arrived in Peru in the early 1500s, the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature. Today they are known for the giant burial coffins sculpted into human figures found in the northern jungle region.

Savoy said his team also found an Inca settlement within the city complex that could prove theories the Chachapoyas were conquered by the Incas, who ruled an area stretching from Ecuador to northern Chile between 1300 and 1500.

Savoy, a Peruvian-American, accompanied on the expedition by his U.S. father, Gene Savoy, named the site Gran Saposoa after the nearby village Saposoa and his team has already mapped the area with preliminary drawings.

The discovery is the third notable ruin Gene Savoy has helped uncover in Peru. In 1964, Savoy found the site of the Incas' last refuge in the Cuzco region of southern Peru. A year later he took part in the discovery of the sacred city of Gran Pajaten in northern Peru.

American Hiram Bingham made Peru's most famous archeological discovery -- the fabled Inca ruins of Machu Picchu near Cuzco -- in 1911. Machu Picchu today attracts almost half a million tourists every year and is South America's best known archeological site.

45 posted on 02/07/2005 9:12:37 PM PST by blam
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"Are his discoveries on the up and up? Peer reviewed and all that?"

I think his discoveries are real...I worry about his interpertations, etc.

46 posted on 02/07/2005 9:14:00 PM PST by blam
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47 posted on 05/14/2006 4:09:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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48 posted on 05/14/2006 4:12:29 PM PDT by RichInOC (...I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I just couldn't resist.)
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I am also of Cajun descent and have done extensive geneological research sometimes reaching back to the year 800. We always said that we thought we had black and maybe Jewish in us. My Jewish, Mexican husband jokes that I am more Jewish than any official Jewish woman....A genetics test only confirmed these two things to be true- Moroccan and Jewish, among other things. Then, having dug further I find that a part of my Cajun family had Jewish/German names from very Jewish places in Alsace, France. Likewise, a majority of first ACADIANS came from La Rochelle, France- which had long housed Jews, or Jewish converts to Catholicism. Lastly, I have researched DNA testing for MAJOR ACADIAN/CAJUN names and several have anusim/Middle Eastern genetic markers....So, Cajuns can be Jewish, too. As my mother says, though- If you go back far enough, many of us supposed “white” people are Jewish and African...


49 posted on 05/20/2010 8:26:28 PM PDT by strawberry7
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Gregory of Tours in his 6th-century History of the Franks mentions one of the Merovingian kings forcing a considerable number of Jews to convert to Christianity. Between that and other cases of voluntary or involuntary conversion, my guess would be that no modern French person could say for sure that he or she has no Jewish ancestors--and the situation is probably not much different in most other European countries. Since genealogical records are so incomplete, DNA may be the only evidence that might be able to prove the Jewish ancestry.
50 posted on 05/28/2010 3:14:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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51 posted on 07/07/2010 3:47:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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