The two students of Ward Church who were on O'Reilly were frightening. Not only were they incapable of thinking but instead saying the same mantra over and over, they had the look of people brainwashed. I'm glad my tuition dollars were not going to educate those two.
Brainwashed was my impression..Deprogramming needed was my next thought.
The basic flaw in their thinking is very clear. In the minds of the indoctrinators and their subjects, the USA and it's friends are always acting, but our enemies are always re-acting against something we did.
So 9/11 was a reaction against some previous evil perpetrate by the west, but the war against the Taliban - in their minds they refuse to see that as a reaction against 9/11 and a defence against another attack. They act (and argue) as if Rumsfeld just woke up one morning and decided to start a war for the hell of it. They refuse to admit that these are acts of self-defence and a reaction against a previous attack.
You will see this arguement over and over, and I wish they were confronted with it more often.
I saw that! They did look like members of a cult or something with their monotone ramblings. One was clean cut, one hippie looking. It was rather frightening to see them.