[COEXERJ145]

It's funny but Tancredo's plan isn't that dissimilar from what President Bush has proposed and yet certain people will trash the President at every opportunity but in the same line they will elevate Tancredo to the level of a god.

[spodefly]

I tend to read most of the threads on illegal immigration, and it appears to me that it is YOU (et al) that is fixated on Tancredo.

Most people just seem to want a plan that isn't an amnesty, stealth or otherwise. Tancredo is among the few that has that clearly outlined. That doesn't make him a god or anything else but someone that has proposed a plan that isn't an amnesty.

[spodefly]

To append to my previous post, it seems to me that most people just want the existing laws enforced. The biggest question I have, regardless of whether it is about the Bush plan or the Tancredo plan or whatever plan is this: If the will is not there to enforce the existing laws, how will passing more laws help?

[Dat Mon]

I don't know how you can make that statement , as nobody has seen any concrete language on Bush's proposal. All Bush has done is lay out guidelines. The philosophy articulated by Bush..."family values don't stop at the border"..."jobs Americans wont do", when coupled with the fact that the present border security and enforcement that we have is inadequate, gives people a bad bad feeling.

Check out the comparison table posted by nodolli, it shows the differences between the various proposals that are presently ON THE TABLE.

[bayourod]

"Returning to their home country to apply." may appease the anti-Mexican crowd, but it won't make much difference to the illegals from Mexico. They go back to Mexico regularly anyway for Christmas, funerals, birthdays etc...

But for the ones from China or Lebanon it might not be possible.

So more Mexicans will have to come over to replace the Asian illegals.

[rolling_stone]

It's funny but Tancredo's plan isn't that dissimilar from what President Bush has proposed and yet certain people will trash the President at every opportunity but in the same line they will elevate Tancredo to the level of a god.

It's as different as night and day, you are disengenious or uninformed......Presidente Bush needs to be aware of how the people feel...not just those that exploit the illegals...

[KiloLima]

I am just sick of you and your crowd trying to polarize this issue rather than discuss it reasonably. No one in this thread has talked about Tancredo being a god; you're just using that to bait people. How about discussing the issue rather than other posters? Have you tried that? Or are you, as usual, spoiling for a fight?

[azhenfud]

Wasn't Tancredo's "plan" calling for one year instead of three year intervals?

Do you know how many "anchors" can be dropped in three years?

I'd opt for a shorter term, but the logistics might not be feasible. Maybe a compromise of 18 mo's with restrictions that no child born to immigrants in the program are eligible for citizenship or taxpayer funded benefits unless one parent is a citizen of the U.S.

I'd like to think there is plenty of ground for compromise to handle the problem - but the proposals have to be comprehensive in nature, ie. SSI, legal identities, immigrant quotas, the host country's willingness to reimburse the taxpayer for benefits acquired by immigrants, etc..

[taxed2death]

LOL....quite an illegal apologist ping list ya got going there mate.

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