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Schröder aide ‘passed Nato plans to East’
The Sunday Times ^ | February 13, 2005 | Justin Sparks

Posted on 02/12/2005 4:34:26 PM PST by MadIvan

A SENIOR adviser to Gerhard Schröder, the German chancellor, has been accused of passing confidential documents to East Germany in the 1980s which revealed how the British Army and RAF would react to an attack by Soviet-led Warsaw Pact forces.

The details were among more than 100 pages of material allegedly given to the East Germans by Karsten Voigt, 63, a former MP who now works for the German foreign ministry as co-ordinator of German-American relations. He spent yesterday at an international security conference attended by Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary.

The German magazine Focus claimed this weekend that in 1987 Voigt passed two highly sensitive documents to a contact in East Berlin before they were discussed in Nato’s military committee, a senior planning body within the alliance.

The documents contained precise details of how British and other Nato countries would react to a Soviet attack on western Europe, according to a source who has seen them.

One document headed Follow-on Forces Attack showed that the RAF and British Army in Germany would not have attempted to engage the first wave of thousands of Soviet tanks and armoured vehicles.

They would instead have concentrated on knocking out the second line of the Soviet advance, including fuel supply lines and food. The documents allegedly described how units of both the army and air force would be deployed.

Potentially more damaging to the Nato defence strategy were sections describing the precise conditions under which Nato would have been prepared to use nuclear weapons against Warsaw Pact forces.

A member of Schröder’s Social Democratic party (SPD), Voigt was an MP from 1976 to 1998, serving on the foreign affairs committee, and was also a member of Nato’s parliamentary assembly.

Deeply involved in arms control talks, he was often in contact with senior officials from East Germany’s communist regime. They included Gunter Rettner, a senior Communist party official, to whom he allegedly handed the documents.

“The documents given to the GDR (East Germany) show in short form what Nato knew about the Warsaw Pact,” a former member of the German general staff told the magazine.

“At the same time, they revealed how the West would react to an attack by the East. The handing over of these documents seriously compromised Nato’s security.”

Focus said the allegations were contained in a dossier that federal prosecutors handed to the justice ministry last December. The ministry declined to comment and has not said whether it intends to prosecute Voigt.

Suggestions that such sensitive Nato material was being leaked to America’s cold war foes could prove an embarrassment to Schröder in the run-up to next week’s visit to Germany by President George W Bush.

Voigt confirmed yesterday he had passed documents to East Berlin but denied their contents were of a secret or sensitive nature. He claimed the documents had been drawn up not by Nato’s military committee but by its parliamentary assembly, which would not have been privy to such sensitive material.

“These reports were intended for the public,” Voigt said. “It’s true that I gave the reports to Herr Rettner and I also gave them to other people as they were intended for distribution.”

The magazine said the allegations against Voigt were based on documents found by members of the German intelligence service in archives in East Berlin in June 1998, three months before the elections that brought Schröder to power.

It claimed a decision was taken at the time not to order an investigation. The original documents have since disappeared from the archives.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; eastgemany; eastgermany; gerhardschrder; gerhardschroder; germany; gunterrettner; karstenvoigt; nato; rettner; schrder; schroder; schroeder; spd; spies; traitors; voigt; westgermany
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So much for Kerry talking about "rebuilding bridges to traditional allies" - these people were never on our side.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 02/12/2005 4:34:28 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; lightingguy; EggsAckley; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/12/2005 4:35:09 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Would this constitute treason?


3 posted on 02/12/2005 4:36:43 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: MadIvan

Why do I think the Germans and the EU will simply dismiss this and do nothing?


4 posted on 02/12/2005 4:37:35 PM PST by GeronL (--I'm thinking, I'm thinking!)
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To: mainepatsfan
If it's treason, that'll be according to German law, not US law.

What surprises me is they haven't found the stuff Schroeder handed over to the East Germans.

5 posted on 02/12/2005 4:39:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MadIvan

"So much for Kerry talking about "rebuilding bridges to traditional allies" - these people were never on our side."
Correct...


6 posted on 02/12/2005 4:39:26 PM PST by rrrod
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To: GeronL

Could it be because of his present post ? A man who is under suspicion of treason-or at least espionage-is appointed liason to the US.


7 posted on 02/12/2005 4:41:19 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey

Treason? Nah. Heck, I'll bet most of Europe doesn't even view the former Soviet Union as evil anymore, if they ever did. I mean, the USSR was a socialist country, with just a little more restrictions on minor details like liberty and freedom.


8 posted on 02/12/2005 4:44:51 PM PST by mwfsu84
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To: MadIvan

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that a leftist West German would have handed over defense plans to the East Germans. It's even money that Schroeder will pardon him (only because it's 3-2 that he's already done so).


9 posted on 02/12/2005 4:45:20 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: MadIvan; piasa; okie01
Shades of Schroeder's idol Willy Brandt ("The young Schroeder was a Marxist and environmentalist. In the early 1970s he idolized SPD chancellor Willy Brandt, whose Ostpolitik promised better relations with communist Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.": Gerhard Schroeder Biography) and Gunter Guillaume. Some interesting info on this site:

Central Intelligence Agency: Stasi Files, 1999

Associated Press. "Germany, U.S. to Discuss Spy Files." 27 Jan. 1999: During a 8-9 February 1999 visit to Washington, Bodo Hombach, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's chief of staff, will meet with DCI George Tenet and probably national security adviser, Sandy Berger, to "press efforts to recover former East German spy files believed taken by the CIA.

10 posted on 02/12/2005 4:49:52 PM PST by Fedora
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To: muawiyah

It's an interesting situation.


11 posted on 02/12/2005 4:52:02 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Fedora

German environmentalists must be watched closely. Nazism arose out of the same political milieu.


12 posted on 02/12/2005 4:55:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It claimed a decision was taken at the time not to order an investigation. The original documents have since disappeared from the archives.

Paging Sandy Berger. Would Mr. Berger please pick up the white courtesy phone?

13 posted on 02/12/2005 5:20:19 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MadIvan
Treason! Lock 'em up. (they don't hang people in Germany any more, it reminds them too much of Hitler)

Since East Germany is now part of Germany (and "West Germany" technically ceases to exist), can he claim that treason is impossible? He was spying for half of his country against the other half! I wonder how far he'd get with this argument.

14 posted on 02/12/2005 5:22:12 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Fedora
Associated Press. "Germany, U.S. to Discuss Spy Files." 27 Jan. 1999: During a 8-9 February 1999 visit to Washington, Bodo Hombach, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's chief of staff, will meet with DCI George Tenet and probably national security adviser, Sandy Berger, to "press efforts to recover former East German spy files believed taken by the CIA."

Hmm. Where have we seen those names before? Putting Sandy Berger in charge of national security was kind of like putting Al Capone in charge of the FBI. And one of President Bush's worst mistakes was that it took him four years to realize that George Tenet was a traitor: to the administration and to his country.

15 posted on 02/12/2005 5:26:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MadIvan

bttt


16 posted on 02/12/2005 5:40:37 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: cyncooper

Our "allies" the Germans...and possible ties to some others we've come to know and despise...


17 posted on 02/12/2005 8:00:59 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: muawiyah

Yes. IIRC Martin Lee mentions an ex-Nazi working for East German intelligence named Otto Ernst Remer was linked to one of the founders of the German Greens.


18 posted on 02/12/2005 8:47:39 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Cicero

Lots of the same names, indeed. It will be interesting to see if there are more common names as Schroder's scandal unfolds.


19 posted on 02/12/2005 8:50:48 PM PST by Fedora
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To: mainepatsfan

No, but it sure would be a good reason to give an ultimatum to Germany. Either try this man and put him in prison, or withdraw from NATO.


20 posted on 02/12/2005 9:00:48 PM PST by dr_who_2
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