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I have tried to track down what "evangelical" church Jim Wallis belongs to and so far have come up empty. The media have been trotting out Jim Wallis as their alternative for values-oriented voters. He is consistently described as an evangelical Christian but many of his views (pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, pro-Islam) are clearly not Christian. Several of the brief bio's available on the internet refer to his begin raised in an evangelical church but never mention which one. Nor do they mention which "evangelical" church he attends now. Does any one have any information on this fella? Where he comes from, what church he belongs to and by what right he can call himself an evangelical Christian?
1 posted on 02/15/2005 1:43:21 PM PST by Juan Medén
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It's a facade. They are trying to redefine terms after the election.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 1:45:07 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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The LSM are pulling a fast one. They're counting on people not being bright enough to differentiate between a real Evangelical, such as Jerry Falwell or John Hagee, and a faux Evangelical, such as this Wallis.

The last gasps of the LSM thought control machinery. Someone needs to drive a stake through their hearts and bury them in cement.

5 posted on 02/15/2005 1:48:41 PM PST by Bombardier (Scratch a Democrat, find a traitor.)
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His background is Plymouth Brethren; he attended Trinity Evangelical Divinity School - but as you note, finding any information about denominational affiliation/accountablity on Wallis usually yields no more than, 'Sojourners.'


6 posted on 02/15/2005 1:49:04 PM PST by PresbyRev (All truth is God's truth: post tenebras, Lux!)
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Check out this link to Wallis' magazine Sojourners. It speaks clearly of his stance, which is firmly within the "social justice" camp.
7 posted on 02/15/2005 1:49:23 PM PST by yatros from flatwater (Good men make good rulers...and as there are none of the former...)
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Nobody can be for gay marraige and then say they are for family values. Wallis is a fraud.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 1:49:29 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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Yeah... I know.

The Perpetual Bleeding Heart of Liberal Dyslexia

11 posted on 02/15/2005 1:50:34 PM PST by johnny7
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The left thinks the right is as shallow as they are and all they have to do is throw out the term "evangelical" and they will win elections.

That the left is having to describe themselves as "evangelical" is a very positive sign for our country.

The fact that many voters might actually fall for the left's tactic and not look deeper at the issues is always worrisome.

14 posted on 02/15/2005 1:51:54 PM PST by DannyTN
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He was on Hannity and Colmes with Jerry Falwell the other day. Falwell said the same thing. He looks good on the surface, but hedged on his stance on the same issues you mentioned, abortion and gay marriage. Eventually, it came out that he supported both.
16 posted on 02/15/2005 1:52:15 PM PST by keats5
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He was on the radio with Hannity and Jerry Falwell yesterday, I believe. Falwell tried repeatedly to pin him down. He finally admitted he's not evangelical, but belongs to an 'independent' church in Maryland - can't remember the name, but it had 'Cedar' in it. When Falwell asked him what time the services were on Sunday, Wallis said they met on Wednesday. It seems they don't have Sunday services and Wallis was obviously uncomfortable and evasive - Falwell blew him off at that point - deservedly so. Wallis was stuck on 'poverty' as an issue - didn't want to talk about abortion or gay marriage. He also didn't want to admit he'd been giving the Dems any sort of advice on how to 'talk values' since the Dems obviously have few they can demonstrate. I found him to be a typical lib, while proclaiming to be a Christian the whole time. If that's all the Dems have, they're in more trouble, not less.


17 posted on 02/15/2005 1:52:41 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Common sense is not so common)
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I read an article on him in ChristianityToday, he doesn't scare me, but he is scary....he will make ground with many that are Christian in name only Republicans.
20 posted on 02/15/2005 1:54:27 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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Reminds me of when the Soviets and the ChiComs installed their own Christian leaders after they took power.


21 posted on 02/15/2005 1:56:37 PM PST by Defiant (This tagline has targeted 10 journalists intentionally, that I personally know of.)
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If he is the same guy that was on with Hannity yesterday, Rev Fallwell asked him what church he belonged to. He hemmed and hawed then finally blurted something out. The Reverend then said he would check the information out to see if this gentlemen was in charge of the church or whatever. So, time will tell, assuming he is the same guy that was on yesterday......


23 posted on 02/15/2005 1:58:30 PM PST by b4its2late (If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.)
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Try Sojourners. It's not a church - it's an organization.


30 posted on 02/15/2005 2:03:28 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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Christians vote not based on labels or image. They vote for candidates who have same principles as they do. The Dems can have a long line of 'evangelical leaders' but if none of them confess the principles the voters agree, they might as well line the liberal hollywood movie stars.

Many people in the borderline 'moderates' don't care about social issues anyway, so lining up 'church leaders' won't do anything for them.

34 posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:10 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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He's also hawking a new book. I saw it all over the front table when entering Barnes and Noble the other day.

-PJ

37 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:56 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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I met Jim Wallis when I was in seminary. I don't recall whether he had finished attending Trinity Evangelical Seminary, but he was working on what was the predecessor of Sojourners. There are five main theological threads in the Christian Church and with that other poster, Wallis would fall into that Social Justice strain. It's the media that has dubbed him Evangelical. And he did attend a seminary with Evangelical in its name. And it is a bonified Evangelical seminary in outskirts of Chicago. One ought to be careful in labeling folks. Democrats to that. Jim Wallis is no threat to Freepers. And I prefer to let God decide which get into Kingdom, so he passes my litmus test as a Christian, but he only has power as much as media gives him.Don't feed into the media frenzy.


42 posted on 02/15/2005 2:20:43 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To find out everything you'd ever want to know about Jim Wallis, Ron Sider, Tony Campolo, and the rest of the left-wing Marcusian Marxists in the religious left this is a MUST READ BOOK:

The Religious Left - Who they are and what they believe - by Dr. Ronald H. Nash, PhD.

http://www.kfuo.org/ie_main.htm has the audio of an interview with Ron Nash. On right side of page, click on October 2004 Scroll down to October 11.

They employ the "moral" deceptions of Saul Alinsky, Hillary's mentor.

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Hillary's Marxist mentor (the one about whom she wrote her college thesis at Wellesley), Saul Alinsky wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: Reveille for Radicals (1946) and Rules for Radicals (1971).

.....Rules for Radicals teaches the organizer that he must give a moral appearance: “All effective action requires the passport of morality.”

The tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends states “that you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments ... Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.”

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Sojourners Magazine March/April 2000 issue - Jim Wallis Editor

"Saul Alinsky Goes to Church"

Faith-based community organizing is taking off---with benefits for both community and church. by Helene Slessarev

The origins of community organizing are generally traced to the pioneering work of Saul Alinsky, who built the first community organizing effort in Chicago’s Back of the Yards neighborhood in the 1930s. Alinsky created the early community-based efforts by organizing existing groups into collective action around particular issues.

Today many communities are much less cohesive, so it is necessary to build relationships first and then take on issues that grow out of those stronger bonds. In poorer communities, churches are often experiencing the same loss of cohesiveness as they struggle to survive in an increasingly barren environment. Thus, organizing becomes a means for such congregations to reconnect with their own members and with the broader community around them. ... [snip]
http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=Soj0003&article=000311


56 posted on 02/15/2005 4:08:41 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Forget "Republican" or "DemocRAT" - Is Jesus a "Moral Relativist"?)
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he is an evangelical Christian like Ward Churchill is a Native American.


58 posted on 02/15/2005 4:43:00 PM PST by fish hawk
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Jim Wallis
To the best of my knowledge he's Mennonite which is an old evangelical, protestant, Pacifist sect. They come to their positions honestly.
They are pacifist because they believe they are members of a Kingdom which is not of this world and do not wish to become entangled with the life and death issues of this world. History has also taught them that religion backing a political party has been the most potent force persecuting belivers over the long haul. That's why they are sceptical about the alliance of the Christian right with the Republican party.
They need to be reminded that their support for the Democratic party is at least as dangerous. Their support for the POOR is heartfelt and genuine, but they need to be reminded that its private charities that give the poor something to live for, not government programs that enslave the poor. It's convenient for them that much of what they want coincides with the Democratic party. However they need to feel MUCH MORE ANGST about the SECULAR direction of their party. However because of their preference for the ABSOLUTE SEPARATION of Church and State they tend to support this in politics.


59 posted on 02/15/2005 5:01:53 PM PST by noah (noah)
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I heard Wallis this AM on Laura Ingraham, and he is clearly from the marxist wing of “christendom” (not capitalized on purpose because it is not Christianity IMHO). We are commanded NOT to make judgements about someone’s relationship to God (“Judge not lest ye be judged...”), while we are instructed to determine the depth of discipleship by judging their life (“By their fruits ye shall know them...”). And the fruits of Wallis’ crowd is death and destruction writ large on a global genocidal scale.

I’ve known some (Plymouth) Brethren including a Pastor, who rankled at the perception of some fellow local pastors who did not include him in their prayer breakfasts because they did not believe he preached Christian doctrine. After talking to him at great length I concluded that the fellow pastors were correct. This ”pastor” (the one I knew) held beliefs indistinguishable from a Universalist Unitarian, which is just paganism in disguise (again, IMHO). And a friend of mine once characterized UU’s as atheists who couldn’t quite kick the church habit.

The Wallis wing of “christendom” are as contemptuous of the First Commandment as they are the Second Amendment (“Thou shalt have no other gods before me”). They definitely have a god before Jehovah, and that god’s name is Big Brother.

I attend a Grace Brethren Church in near Andrews AFB, and I gotta say they are theologically identical to the independant Baptists I grew up with. Definitely NOT the (Plymouth) Brethren.

60 posted on 02/15/2005 5:48:55 PM PST by crusher
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