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To: Alberta's Child

Excellent timeline!

There are some strange stories still to be told about the erratic fortunes of some teams--the St. Louis Blues' aborted move to Saskatoon, Harold Ballard's trashing of the Maple Leafs, the ownership woes of the Senators, Penguins and Islanders--but this is a great synopsis nonetheless!


10 posted on 02/18/2005 11:57:46 AM PST by Loyalist (Please visit this fine Catholic lady's blog: fiatmihi.blogspot.com)
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To: Loyalist

My bad--you've got the Penguins and Islanders covered.


13 posted on 02/18/2005 12:00:21 PM PST by Loyalist (Please visit this fine Catholic lady's blog: fiatmihi.blogspot.com)
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Thanks for pointing that out. I should have included not just the Blues' aborted move to Saskatoon, but that city's subsequent attempt to get an expansion team. As unbelievable as this may seem -- the city of Saskatoon (pop. 180,000 or so) was a strong candidate for an NHL franchise as recently as the late 1980s!


18 posted on 02/18/2005 12:06:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: Loyalist; Alberta's Child

The penguins demise is not so strange a story, really. I hate to say it, but they effectively bought two Stanley Cups. If you look at the 91-92 Pens rosters, they very literally read like the lineup of an all-star team. The owners, Howard Baldwin and Roger Marino, simply spent more money than they could make. Sure, It won them two cups, but it ran the team into the ground. I always said, when the Pens started salary-dumping and getting worse, that Pittsburghers had to endure bad hockey because the team was finally paying for the two Stanley Cups they bought. Harsh words from a Pittsburgher, an Penguins fan, and an all around hockey nut- but they are true.
Lemieux has been doing the right things- working on creating good players through their development system, and making the team more finacially strong. In just a few years, they went from nearly being moved to Portland, to being only 7 Million in the Red. Now, 7 Mil in the Red might not sound that great, but it was a major improvement (from over 50 Mil, I think?). By being that close to actually making money, Lemieux and Craig Patrick were postioning themselves to avoid contraction.
The biggest mistake they made was trusting the city government for tax money to buid a new arena. A new ballpark and football field were built, but the city never ponied up the tax money that the citizens of Allegheny County so foolishly agreed to. The Penguins based much of their future planning on what the city promised, but didn't deliver, but are we surprised? No. The sales tax in Allegheny County still stands at 7, rather than 6 percent.
I suppose that's it in a nutshell, maybe even more than you wanted to know. Any other questions?

And Alberta's Child- please add me to your ping list. I hope there is hockey next season.


169 posted on 02/18/2005 3:43:30 PM PST by musical_airman (Apparently, I have too much time on my hands.)
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