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To: PatrickHenry

"The creationoids will have a ball with this. They can add it to their tiny list of fraudulent finds, like Piltdown Man. But it should be noted that the frauds were exposed by scientists, not creationists (who deny the validity of the means used to test the fossils)."


Applying the creationoid standard to Christianity means that every digraced pervert priest, every adulterating, money-laundering televangelist, and every action of fringe Christian cults only mean that Christianity is itself a farce.


56 posted on 02/19/2005 11:30:15 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba
Applying the creationoid standard to Christianity means that every digraced pervert priest, every adulterating, money-laundering televangelist, and every action of fringe Christian cults only mean that Christianity is itself a farce.

I have never seen a satisfactory reply to this particular accusation of double-standards. In fact I'm not sure that I've even ever seen a creationist attempt to explain why scientific fraud (uncovered by scientists, as usual ) invalidates all of science, yet religious fraud does not weaken religion in the least. While we are about it let us not forget that wonderful fraud, the Turin Shroud (shown to be fraudulent by scientists using C-14 dating, not by the power of prayer; how richly ironic in the context of the current debate)

60 posted on 02/19/2005 11:35:21 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Blzbba
Applying the creationoid standard to Christianity means that every digraced pervert priest, every adulterating, money-laundering televangelist, and every action of fringe Christian cults only mean that Christianity is itself a farce.

Umm, no, Because Christians have a standard to follow, the Bible.

It is when someone doesn't follow the Bible that they can rightly be called a fraud or fake.

It is also possible, I admit, to be a genuine Christian and NOT follow to the letter due to ignorance or intent, but also, according to the Bible, if the person admits it, and returns to the faith, it shows they are human and a sinner...just like the Bible said. It also, I know, this sounds like piling on, but...it also proves the Bible right when it calls all men sinners who are likely to fall if they arent following God as it says.

Evolution on the other hand has no standard to follow that is based on an absolute, except for the statement that EVOLUTION IS TRUE.

There is not one book or thesis that an Evolutionist has to state that is his definition of what is evolution and how it happens and where and why. There is Darwinian evolution, Punctuated Equilibrium, forced because of ecology or simple genetic isolation, and, to the great confusion of both sides, Evolution mixed with Creation as if the two are con-joinable.

Some even believe in Aliens spreading stuff across the universe, and some others believe that microbes on meteors did it.

The Creationist is one who believes it was God and God alone. Someone who calls himself a Creationist and believes evolution happened across phylum boundries either doesnt understnd or agree with all of evolution or doesnt understnad or agreee with what the Bible teaches.

410 posted on 02/21/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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