EU Constitution a threat to America?

National Review Online ^ | February 22, 2005, 7:45 a.m | Andrew Stuttaford

[Righty_McRight]

The constitution paves the way for the transfer of increasing amounts of defense and diplomatic activity from Europe's national capitals to Brussels. Article 1-16 commits all member states to a "common foreign and security policy." "Member states" are required to "actively and unreservedly support the Union's common foreign and security policy in a spirit of loyalty and mutual solidarity and shall comply with the Union's actions in this area. They shall refrain from action contrary to the Union's interests or likely to impair its effectiveness." In a recent radio interview, Spanish prime minister Jose Zapatero explained how this might work: "we will undoubtedly see European embassies in the world, not ones from each country, with European diplomats and a European foreign service...we will see Europe with a single voice in security matters. We will have a single European voice within NATO."

And the more that the EU speaks with that one voice, the less will be heard from those of its member states more inclined to be sympathetic to America. And as to what this would mean, well, French Green politician Noel Mamère put it best in the course of an interview last week: "The good thing about the European constitution is that with it the United Kingdom will not be able to support the United States in a future Iraq."

[Righty_McRight]

Is this thing going to rob us of our Allies? Oh well, atleast we'll still have Japan (I hope they put that military bulid up in high gear).

[oursouls]

I suggest that you guys nuke Brussels.

Just in case.

But could you wait till the wind's blowing east please?

[wk4bush2004]

Apparently so. With the new EU consttituion, they'll be able to suppress our allies, leaving Europe against us.

I think Japan would love to become more militarily active. If the Diet and Japanese people can amend their constitution, Japan could be a formidable military ally and help us counter the threat of China.

[ruiner]

And risk NOT contaminating France? No deal . . .

[Hurtgen]

This is rather interesting. At this moment I'm preparing a paper on the simularities between the Constitution of the Confederate States of America and the EU Constitution. Very similar in tone and tenor.

The only real differences is that the CSA Constitution promulgated slavery and the EU rejoices in the rights of all man. Both rested on assumptions that reflect their society and culture. There are the masses and an elite, the one born to be led and unequipped to decide great issues and the other destined by birth and breeding to lead. In such a world, the greatest tyranny, was the will of a majority that does not, and perhaps can not, grasp the stakes raised by issues of state.

As I said, very interesting.

[philsfan24]

"The good thing about the European constitution is that with it the United Kingdom will not be able to support the United States in a future Iraq."

with its storied history, i just dont believe that the UK will forfeit its rights to another body. i dont believe that a union with such a diverse set of beliefs and backgrounds could ever survive as one. too many countries have too many different interests in europe.

[oursouls]

"with its storied history, i just dont believe that the UK will forfeit its rights to another body"

Too right.

Unfortunatley, Blair would. In fact he's already started.

[ProudGOP]

Since there will be single European foreign policy, they should only get 1 vote in the UN and NATO

[Paradox]

If push REALLY came to shove, and it was the US vs the EU (assuming the US was right, as usual), I'm pretty sure the EU would fracture along Anglo lines, and perhaps with smaller "new Europe" countries coming along as well.

[Publius Scipio]

Yes, much like a flea threatening an elephant with rape.

[26lemoncharlie]

There is a lot more to it than we think. They have been lining up against tyhe US and with our help. This is all to establish the New World Order. The disarming of the US Citizens and the destruction of our Constutional Republic.

The Hate Crimes Laws are nothing more than the implementation of the Values set forth in the European Socialist Manefesto. They undermine our Gurantee of Freedom of Speech by the Constitution. The Hate Crimes were put into law to do just that. We have the right to Hate just as we have the right to Love. The Constitution of the United States is slowly but surely being replaced with the Socialist Version of the European Constitution, read it for yourself:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318061/posts?page=6#6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318038/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318034/posts
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=view&id=954
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1254190/posts

WHY IS AMERICA NEGOTIATING AWAY HER SOVEREIGNTY?

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b43515e550e.htm

[Nathan Zachary]

Right on. If this is what they are saying, that they will be one united force, like all the states of the USA have one fedral military, then also they will only have one contribution to Nato, like the USA does.
It stands to reason that they also have only one vote and voice in the UN. The EU, is after all, going to be several states united under one body, just like the USA is.
We should in fact DEMAND that the EU have only one collective voice within the UN. Or else the USA should have 50.

[OK]

I would like to know if a right to secede from the Union is explicitly stated in this Constitution.

The US Constitution did not have this, and the consequences were not pretty.

[Righty_McRight]

[quote]I would like to know if a right to secede from the Union is explicitly stated in this Constitution.

The US Constitution did not have this, and the consequences were not pretty.[/quote]

I'm curous about that as well. Blood may spill if this is a "grey" area. Can you imagine the EU telling The United Kingdom that it CAN'T leave if it wanted to?

[lotusblos]

"The disarming of the US Citizens and the destruction of our Constutional Republic."

Until we rid ourselves of the teachers unions and their socialist agenda we don't stand a chance. Todays kids don't learn history and they have an even poorer understanding of our constitution and what makes this country great. It's been in the works for over 40 years and most of us have been taught not to see it.

[americanbychoice2]

Yes it does. It says that it will take a unaminous vote of all members to allow a country to secede.

[AdrianR]

I wonder who is going to determine the common security policy. Brussels Eurocrats? Majority vote among countries? If it is a voting mechanism, France may sometimes have to support policies that they don't like as well.

[Billthedrill]

It's pretty plain now what is going on with respect to the current incarnation of the EU constitution - it's a lever by which politicians who have not otherwise earned the ability, to suppress the freedom of others to act in their separate interests. It is precisely what was attempted at the UN, a naked power grab.

...French Green politician Noel Mamère put it best in the course of an interview last week: "The good thing about the European constitution is that with it the United Kingdom will not be able to support the United States in a future Iraq."

To Mamere what happens in Iraq is not important. What is important is that he has a veto on it, whatever it is.

[SAJ]

Good point. Nonetheless, the ESSR, as presently ''constituted'' (sic), has in fact no exit mechanism or procedure for the member nations.

[americanbychoice2]

Everything Europeon will be decided by appointed, not elected, Bureaucrats.