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The Governor needs our help! (CA)
California Republican Committee ^ | 02-24-05 | Sacramento County Republican Party

Posted on 02/24/2005 6:05:08 PM PST by granite

ACTION ALERT! 

With Thanks to the
Sacramento County Republican Party
Donna Schalansky, Chairman
Karen Atteberry, Executive Director

 SUPPORT FOR THE GOVERNOR!

 The Governor needs our help!

Governor Schwarzenegger's opponents around the country are mobilizing against him because foes of pension reform and legislative redistricting know if he prevails in California, other states will follow.


The Democratic National Committee and others who oppose his agenda are already gearing up for what Schwarzenegger has called "a great battle."

"Given how important California is both economically and politically to both parties and the nation, you can expect we will continue to monitor these developments very closely," said Jano Cabrera, communications director for the Democratic National Committee in

 1.  Attend the Support of Governor Schwarzenegger Rally this Friday, February 25, 11:00 a.m., on the north steps of the State Capitol Building.

 2.  Submit your Petition in Support of the Governor's Reform.  Go to www.goforitarnold.com to submit your petition!

 3.  Call the Governor's Office at 916-445-2841.  Press the "hot issue" button, #5, and follow the prompts to leave a message.

 4.  Send an E-Letter to the Governor encouraging him to keep up the good work and continue to fight for the reform agenda by going to www.govmail.ca.gov 

 5.  Write a Letter to the Editor in support of the Governor's agenda.

 Here are some good talking points to use in your letters:

o      This year, California took in over $5 billion more in general fund revenues than last year.

o      Auto-pilot formulas within the budget system require that the state spend over $10 billion more than last year.

o      Because of the broken system, an increase in taxes triggers an automatic increase in spending. That is a formula for fiscal disaster.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!



TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: needshelp; reform; schwarzenegger; specialinterests
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
1 posted on 02/24/2005 6:05:09 PM PST by granite
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To: granite
LOL! We've come a long way in touting the benefits of more spending.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

2 posted on 02/24/2005 6:14:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: granite

ok.......I just sent a support email to AHH-nold regarding the budget and redistrcting........let's help him push some of this thru....Some may not like him but I honestly believe in these areas he is doing the exact right thing.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 6:29:09 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

>>I honestly believe in these areas he is doing the exact right thing.

Borrow, borrow, borrow. ;-)


4 posted on 02/24/2005 7:20:43 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

I don't like the borrowing any more than you......really, but if it is short term thing this year than so be it...but we better get the spending thing down ASAP or like you infer, it doesn't matter than.....hell, I'm an Investment Broker and would never take this tactic unless for short term resolution.......our revenues are finally going back up so NOW is the time to cut cut cut......


5 posted on 02/24/2005 7:26:16 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

The accumulated amounts, plus more incurred in the next year or so, would ordinarily have to be paid back within 3-5 years. Instead, they want to spread it over 15 years, so they can continue to spend, spend, spend instead of paying for their fiscally irresponsible actions. That hardly is a "cut cut cut" proposition. The net effect is to spend more, not less.


6 posted on 02/24/2005 7:37:24 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NorCalRepub; granite

Man, this really sticks in my craw after he signed AB 50, but there's no point in "cutting off your nose just to spite your face".

Gotta help him when he's doin' the right thing, and hit him over the head when he's wrong.


7 posted on 02/24/2005 7:39:41 PM PST by absalom01 (Yo, homie! Is that my briefcase?)
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To: calcowgirl

when you say "they", are you talking about the legislature or Arnold's position.......I would pay off any loan as soon as possible.....I don't as much about this as you since you have demostrated your expertise......but I though Arnold, who is an excellent businessman was trying to get rid of some programs......also, didn't alot of the auto spending happen because of ballot initiatives?.....how do we get rid of those so we can raise or lower as we see fit....just curious


8 posted on 02/24/2005 7:41:39 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: granite
This State sucks. Finding work is so controlled by the State that securing a job is impossible. The State has regulations that makes it impossible. Stating this is a great place to work, what kind of bullshit is that. Entrance wages so damn small that it might be OK for a wet nosed kid just out of high school and still lives at home. Older persons if layed off, will never find a job. Many jobs require that you apply on the internet and they never call back and the job stays posted for months. I honestly believe they are not trying to fill a job, but by posting some jackass executive keeps his job. Many good people are loosing their homes, and are being reduced to poverty. It's no wonder that businesses have moved out of California and good workers are following.
9 posted on 02/24/2005 7:45:08 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: NorCalRepub
when you say "they", are you talking about the legislature or Arnold's position

I'm speaking of the Keene bill (ACA 4), which is being carried for Arnold and represents his "budget reform" or "spending reform" bill.

I would pay off any loan as soon as possible

So would I. This bill delays it and lets them instead use the money to continue higher levels of spending.

...but I though Arnold, who is an excellent businessman was trying to get rid of some programs......

I have yet to see any substantive cut. He has borrowed more, increased fees, diverted costs to local levels (causing them to increase taxes/fees) all of which has only supported higher spending levels at the state level.

also, didn't alot of the auto spending happen because of ballot initiatives?

The auto spending can happen with things like prop 42 (transportation) and prop 98 (education)... but they have suspended them the past couple of years. It also happens with laws like Prop 49 (after-school-programs) which he initiated and promoted and the LAO is now recommending the legislature put on the ballot to get it rescinded.

.....how do we get rid of those so we can raise or lower as we see fit....just curious

This can't all be blamed on auto spending. If that were the primary problem, he should be fighting to get all of them rescinded by putting them back on the ballot, which he is not. In fact, his reform ELIMINATES the ability to suspend them in the future! Here's a link to the analysis of his budget reform proposal.

10 posted on 02/24/2005 8:12:59 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NorCalRepub
I don't like the borrowing any more than you......really, but if it is short term thing this year than so be it...

According to Arnold when he was hawking Props 57 & 58 it was to be a one time borrowing. Did you believe him? Do you believe it now?

So, what makes you think that, after having raised the non discretionary interest payments in the budget by 40%, the State will have increasing difficulty finding program cuts? So, what now? More borrowing or taxes?

Take your pick, seeing as you bought into this stupid scenario.

11 posted on 02/24/2005 8:21:42 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: granite

I am so happy we have a hands on Governor on the side of the right thinkers,not the feng-sway folks up north in Sacremento.They spend $$ like there is no tomarrow.Well our Governor dose not take any $$ for the great job he is doing with the bag of junk he took over from Gray "spend yours & mine Tax money"Davis. More power to Arnold !!


12 posted on 02/24/2005 10:05:31 PM PST by pitbully (I Love My State & My Governor)
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To: Carry_Okie

when you say I bought into this scenario, I'm not sure what you mean....it seems like you like to be hostile at times.....does that make you feel superior or something.. I was asking questions of the other gal.....so I can understand if better....are you just mad at Arnold so you want to be hostile at someone else......I admit that you may know more about this than me...but I'm not sure why you want to come across as you do??????? Do you look into these issues as a hobby or are you linked to this by occupation?


13 posted on 02/24/2005 10:10:10 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub
when you say I bought into this scenario, I'm not sure what you mean....

Clearly. Let's take a look at your words.

I don't like the borrowing any more than you......really, but if it is short term thing this year than so be it...

First of all, you obviously DON'T find borrowing as distasteful as CCG does, simply because you are willing to accept that "it might be necessary." CCG doesn't believe that for a minute and neither do I. You are thus buying into the same false sense of urgency that allowed Arnold to borrow $15 billion last year when Davis' shortfall was only $11 billion.

Did you or did you not vote for Propositions 57 and 58? If you did, you fell for the whole "one time borrowing"/"cut up the credit cards" gambit. Arnold was deceiving the public then as he is now.

are you just mad at Arnold so you want to be hostile at someone else.....

In prior threads, you have taken strong positions in support of Arnold's proposals and flung insults at his detractors as if we are so out to lunch that we can't see reality. Then you wonder why you are confronted with facts and called to account for your positions? You call that "hostile"? Cut with the name calling and supply facts with citations to sources. If you can't do that, then change your position. That's what being a FReeper is all about.

Do you look into these issues as a hobby or are you linked to this by occupation?

Doing something about regulatory corruption, particularly regarding environmental law, is part of my occupation. I have published a book on the topic. I am not on anybody's payroll. I don't owe any favors or fealty. Arnold is in it up to his eyeballs, as were both of his two prior predecessors, Pete Wilson and Bray Davis.

14 posted on 02/24/2005 10:52:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
oh well, I guess I got duped by Arnold...I get duped by most politicians cause all have lied to me one way or another....I can tell you are so passionate and knowledgeable on this that stupid people like me irritate the hell out of you.....sorry I'm so ignorant on the matter.....if I had more time to study it I suppose that I would know this better.....however, my expertise is in other areas, like Investment Brokering, small company retirement plans, being a sales manager and Master's Degree in Industrial Psychology.....in that vein I've seen stuff like this before but not on blogs per se......passion and expertise sometimes equals intolerance of others.......that is ok....I also see it in Terri Schiavo threads and John McCain threads here.......it is a normal phenomenon in forum or group type dynamics........next time I'll just say I support Arnold in my heart......and let it go at that. Seems like being a FReeper as I read the threads is more about throwing out opinions whether they can be backed up, insulting liberals, lots of attacking each other here and some good dialog on other issues.......lots of stuff happening here......I think I told you already if I insulted you in an other thread,I'm sorry, I'm still recovering from a Iatrogenic condition that took me 3 years to heal and I still have some cognitive problems at times.......sorry if that offends you but I still try really hard.....
15 posted on 02/25/2005 8:18:10 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Carry_Okie

ps......also and this is only in a psychological vein, I'm curious. You chose to go at me but not the original poster of the thread, granite, who posted an epiphany about Arnold or another guy who also posted his support....since you want me to learn about FR, what things did I say that agitated you yet not the poster of the thread who said much more on it than I?......that dynamic shows a selective derision which most likely is directed at newer posters..


16 posted on 02/25/2005 8:24:16 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

To answer your question, as the webmaster for the local GOP website, the president asked me to post this "Action Alert" and I complied with her request. It is merely a "Call to Action" for those interested in the cause and was not posted to incite anyone. It provided necessary information for those that needed it. Please do not kill the messenger.


17 posted on 02/25/2005 9:02:14 AM PST by granite
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To: NorCalRepub
ps......also and this is only in a psychological vein, I'm curious. You chose to go at me but not the original poster of the thread, granite, who posted an epiphany about Arnold or another guy who also posted his support....since you want me to learn about FR, what things did I say that agitated you yet not the poster of the thread who said much more on it than I?......that dynamic shows a selective derision which most likely is directed at newer posters..

You are mistaken again. I have never seen granite on this forum. I am giving him/her time to learn a bit before holding to account, as I did you. When you started repeatedly singing Arnold's song, and getting rather condescending about it even when confronted with evidence and given ample opportunity to READ it, is when I decided enough was enough.

18 posted on 02/25/2005 9:06:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: granite

Won't get my help after he banned .50's. As far as I'm concerned, he can kiss off. I don't help traitors to the US Constitution.

Mike


20 posted on 02/25/2005 9:46:45 AM PST by BCR #226
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