To: Pendragon_6
"Juveniles are less mature than adults and, no matter how heinous their crimes, they are not among 'the worst offenders' who deserve to die."Worst offenders? Some of the most henious crimes ever committed have been done by kids. Hello Columbine. Is there a time limit now for common sense? I know 50 year olds who have less common sense than those who are 6. Look at Bill Clinton, look at John Wayne Gacy, look at Jeffrey Dahmer, look at Hilery Clinton. I`m sorry, but I remember clear as day when I was a kid that killing someone meant the death penalty if not life in prison, and if these kids are so short on common sense, what the hell do you think they are going to be like as adults when they have more freedom? Screw them, fry the little bastards. You can`t figure out basic common sense out by the time you are 14, then we don`t want you floating around at 30 babe.
2 posted on
03/04/2005 2:13:51 PM PST by
Imaverygooddriver
(I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
To: Pendragon_6
"The Court thus proclaims itself sole arbiter of our Nations moral standardsand in the course of discharging that awesome responsibility purports to take guidance from the views of foreign courts and legislatures. Because I do not believe that the meaning of our Eighth Amendment, any more than the meaning of other provisions of our Constitu-tion, should be determined by the subjective views of five Members of this Court and
like-minded foreigners, I dissent."
-Justice Antonin Scalia
3 posted on
03/04/2005 2:14:07 PM PST by
BigEdLB
(BigEd)
To: Pendragon_6
There is another problem with this decision. It appears that Justice John Paul Stevens should have reused himself from this case because he had a predetermined vote on this issue prior to hearing the case.
According to Mark Levin's book Men in Black, Justice Stevens in 2002 in the case of Thompson v. Oklahoma, Stevens referred to international standards for the execution of criminals under sixteen years of age. Pages 21 and 22.
8 posted on
03/04/2005 2:39:53 PM PST by
BMC1
To: Pendragon_6
'the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society'
Maturing toward what? Does justice Kennedy have some god-like overview the rest of us lack?
9 posted on
03/04/2005 2:41:51 PM PST by
TalBlack
To: Pendragon_6
If a child knows that they will not receive the death penalty for cold blooded killing, what is to stop them? I've heard many liberals argue that the death penalty is not a deterrent, but I can't see how it wouldn't be. If you kill another person and are completely aware and did it with premeditation, shouldn't you get the death penalty, regardless of age? I think this is too broad of a decision for them to make. Each case should be looked at individually.
To: Pendragon_6
I believe these Justices are trying to get their agendas thru before GW brings in the hopefully conservative Justices.
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