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Another Ban Failed: MD Rejects State Ban
United Pro Choice ^ | 3-11-05 | Melvin Thompson

Posted on 03/11/2005 8:04:17 AM PST by SheLion

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 9, 2005

Contact: Melvin Thompson
410-290-6800
Cell 443-463-7349


MARYLAND LAWMAKERS REJECT STATEWIDE SMOKING BAN FOR RESTAURANTS AND BARS

(Columbia, MD) – In an evenly-split vote, Maryland lawmakers have killed a statewide smoking
ban initiative for the third consecutive year. Members of the Senate Finance Committee rejected
the measure on March 4, 2005 by a 5 to 5 vote, effectively killing the bill for the year. Legislation
must win more “yea” than “nay” votes in order to pass.

With many predicting the vote was too close to call, this year’s smoking ban debate was without
question the most heated in recent years, with both sides accusing the other of providing flawed
data about the economic impact of smoking bans. Ultimately, however, the Restaurant Association
of Maryland (RAM) prevailed with irrefutable data from the Maryland Comptroller’s office. The
Association provided to lawmakers data that showed significant sales losses and sharp declines in
the number of restaurants with liquor licenses that filed state sales tax returns from jurisdictions
with local smoking bans (Talbot and Montgomery Counties).

“We figured out how smoking ban proponents were manipulating sales data and we simply called
them on it,” said Melvin Thompson, vice president of government relations for the Restaurant
Association of Maryland. “They’ve been employing the same misleading tactic nationwide -- using
industry-wide sales data to downplay the negative impact that smoking bans have on a specific
segment of the restaurant industry.
Instead of letting them get away with it again, we examined
sales data from only those segments of the industry most impacted by smoking bans
(establishments with liquor licenses) and successfully convinced lawmakers that this is the only
data that is relevant.”

During testimony before the Senate Finance Committee, Talbot County Councilwoman Hillary
Spence (the sponsor of Talbot’s smoking ban) questioned the validity of RAM’s data and
maintained that Talbot County restaurants were “thriving.” In the wake of the strength of RAM’s
figures, however, she has since admitted that she made a mathematical error that led her to think
that sales in Talbot County were down by only 1.1 percent. Instead, RAM’s facts accurately show
an 11 percent decline.

“This remains a controversial issue and an uphill battle,” Thompson said. “But the debate should
begin with data that is accurate and relevant.”


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The Restaurant Association of Maryland currently has 3,000-members statewide. The mission of RAM is to promote, protect and improve the foodservice industry in Maryland. RAM members consist of professionals from the foodservice industry, hotel/motel and lodging industry and businesses that provide products to the hospitality industry.


Restaurant Association of Maryland
Steve F. De Castro Building
6301 Hillside Court
Columbia, Maryland 21046
800-874-1313 fax 410-290-6882
www.marylandrestaurants.com
http://www.marylandrestaurants.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; fda; individualliberty; lawmakers; maine; niconazis; professional; prohibitionists; pufflist; regulation; rinos; senate; smoking; taxes; tobacco
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1 posted on 03/11/2005 8:04:18 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ..

2 posted on 03/11/2005 8:04:46 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion
Someone finally called them on it and they said, "Oh we're sorry we tried to fool you."

A-holes.

3 posted on 03/11/2005 8:10:59 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SheLion

For those of us who have been fighting this issue for years, the information provided by Thompson and his group comes as no surprise.

I'm thrilled the powers that be in Annapolis saw the righting on the wall.

I have to laugh at the comments from the Talbot County legislator.........a 1.1 decline in business is a "thriving" business? I'm very familiar with Talbot county and have seen the decline myself, the 11 percent is not a surprise in the least, although I was surprised it wasn't higher.


4 posted on 03/11/2005 8:12:25 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: SheLion

Well, how about that!

Some sanity from what Les Kinsolving calls "The Land of Political Enchantment" in Annapolis.

Ain't the beer cold!


5 posted on 03/11/2005 8:13:33 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Just another Joe

That and bottom feeders too. Hi Joe!


6 posted on 03/11/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: SheLion

While I'm glad about this I live in Montgomery County, MD and they already banned smoking almost everywhere. The nannies around here love to tell us all what to do.


7 posted on 03/11/2005 8:19:12 AM PST by beandog (The only time I was wrong was the time I thought I was wrong)
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To: SheLion
Hopefuly this will be the headline in New Jersey in another few weeks

BTW, Don't forget me on the ping list, I've seem to have been taken off recently. Or if I did something and you kicked me off - I apologize for whatever mean, nasty thing I did :-)
8 posted on 03/11/2005 8:20:38 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: beandog

Get a hold of the guy from the RAM....he may have the "real" numbers for Montgomery County and you may be able to use them to prove the council was lied to about the economic impact.

I know it's Montgomery County, but what have you got to lose?


9 posted on 03/11/2005 8:22:31 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Just another Joe
Someone finally called them on it and they said, "Oh we're sorry we tried to fool you."

It's a crying shame that I live in New England and my state of Maine was forced into total smoking bans.

But if the rest of the United States can see the choked economy in this area and learn by this, it will give the rest of the business owner's a fighting chance.  Just get the word out:

"I NEED MY REVENUE.  MY EMPLOYEES NEED THEIR JOBS.  NO FORCED SMOKING BANS WILL EVER BE CONSIDERED!"

10 posted on 03/11/2005 8:23:44 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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11 posted on 03/11/2005 8:25:36 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: beandog
While I'm glad about this I live in Montgomery County, MD and they already banned smoking almost everywhere. The nannies around here love to tell us all what to do.


12 posted on 03/11/2005 8:25:45 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Sunshine Sister
Hiya, Sis, I'm glad we are beginning to see individuals and entities fighting back.
The truth about the economic impact has been out there for some time. The antis have been playing hide the sausage with the stats for even longer.
13 posted on 03/11/2005 8:26:40 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SheLion
During testimony before the Senate Finance Committee, Talbot County Councilwoman Hillary Spence (the sponsor of Talbot’s smoking ban) questioned the validity of RAM’s data and maintained that Talbot County restaurants were “thriving.” In the wake of the strength of RAM’s figures, however, she has since admitted that she made a mathematical error that led her to think that sales in Talbot County were down by only 1.1 percent. Instead, RAM’s facts accurately show an 11 percent decline.

“This remains a controversial issue and an uphill battle,” Thompson said. “But the debate should begin with data that is accurate and relevant.”

It was a mathematical error, honest, but you can depend on our accurate and relevant information.

Honest.

Great fun watching the little stinker squirm when she got caught.

14 posted on 03/11/2005 9:11:49 AM PST by metesky ("Maine: Last to know; First to go.")
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To: SheLion

Wonderful news! It gives me some hope here in Missouri!


15 posted on 03/11/2005 9:36:30 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: SheLion
Legislation must win more “yea” than “nay” votes in order to pass.

I'm glad they cleared that up.... I never realized this. :-)

16 posted on 03/11/2005 9:41:12 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: freepatriot32; All
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17 posted on 03/11/2005 9:41:16 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Property must be secured, or liberty cannot exist."-John Adams PRIVATE property is NOT the public's)
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To: metesky
Great fun watching the little stinker squirm when she got caught.

Isn't it wonderful? I sure wish Maine could have put up a fight like this. We had no chance.

18 posted on 03/11/2005 9:45:39 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: metesky; SheLion; Gabz
1.1 percent. Instead, RAM’s facts accurately show an 11 percent decline.

Guess it was just a little decimal point "malfunction", huh?

FMCDH(BITS)

19 posted on 03/11/2005 9:48:57 AM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: nothingnew
Guess it was just a little decimal point "malfunction", huh?

Isn't that ridiculous?!

20 posted on 03/11/2005 9:51:38 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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