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To: nickcarraway

So Julius Caesar and Mark Antony were seduced by her for her mind? Yeah, I really believe that. Even 2,000 years ago, things weren't that different.


2 posted on 03/15/2005 8:17:15 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy

Both Ceasar and Antony could have practically any woman they wanted, willing or not. I'm sure that didn't change after they had been 'seduced' by another politically powerful leader. Sure, Antony may have left his wife for Cleopatra, but is there any real doubt that he probably hit the brothels on a regular basis or had slaves around for that sort of thing? The emperor Augustus, certainly no ascetic when it came to sex, seduction and adultry, nonetheless hypocritcally chastised Antony about his licentiousness, which was well known. All this while Antony was floating down the Nile in his free time with the Ptolemic Queen. I'd say Cleopatra's real attraction was as that of Jacqueline Bouvier; attractive enough, but with a pedigree that allowed her to move through the stratosphere of high society, which was her natural environment. Cleopatra was just a ancient manifestation of that.


18 posted on 03/15/2005 9:13:58 PM PST by hleewilder
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She was well educated, spoke several languages (even Egyptian,which the Ptolemaic kings/Queens did NOT;but rather,spoke Greek ),but I've NEVER heard that she wrote any books before. I do believe that this is just Arab drivel,much like the Afrocentric bilge about how Cleopatra was a Negroid;which is impossible.

She may have bedazzled Julius Caesar with her brains,but Marc Antony was ONLY interested in sex...her intelligence wouldn't have factored into his lusting after her at all.

20 posted on 03/15/2005 9:19:59 PM PST by nopardons
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Why do you have difficulty believing Caesar would be attracted to a beautiful mind?

A woman with a great mind is a most wondrously attractive thing :-).


43 posted on 03/15/2005 10:24:10 PM PST by FYREDEUS
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To: speedy
So Julius Caesar and Mark Antony were seduced by her for her mind? Yeah, I really believe that. Even 2,000 years ago, things weren't that different.

You should have seen her Frontal Lobes.

68 posted on 03/16/2005 4:16:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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Yeah, and they read Playboy for the intellectual articles.


78 posted on 03/16/2005 4:51:59 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: speedy
No, I think she wielded tremendous power. She seduced with her feminine ways, but kept Caesar and Antony with her strategic mind. Beauty and brains. By today's standards, she be a conservative. ;).
80 posted on 03/16/2005 5:04:47 AM PST by rintense
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To: speedy

These folks don't understand how the MIND of males work.

Trust me ... it wasn't her "mind" that seduced them. It was her looks and what she did with her body. Of course the mind had a hand in it but the intelluctual aspect they are trying to promote wasn't what seduced them.

This looks like an add for radical feminism.


91 posted on 03/16/2005 6:58:24 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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