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F-16 crashes at Nellis, pilot safely ejects
F-16.net ^ | 3/18/2005 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2005 5:00:03 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Friday, March 18, 2005 - An Air Force pilot was able to safely eject moments before his F-16 crashed just short of the runway at Nellis Air Force Base.

The aircraft was assigned to the 16th Weapons Squadron at the U.S. Air Force Weapons School based at Nellis.

The crash occurred about 8:34 a.m., military officials said in a statement. The pilot was taken to a hospital, where he was being evaluated and treated for minor scratches.

Officials said a safety board has been formed to investigate the crash.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: eject; ejection; f16; lawndart; nellisafb; pilot; planecrash; usaf
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Glad the guy is OK.
1 posted on 03/18/2005 5:00:04 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Ejections can be lethal.


2 posted on 03/18/2005 5:02:12 PM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: Felis_irritable

I was at a supplier conference at LM Aero two weeks ago and was told that the pilot literally crashes through the glass. Ouch.


3 posted on 03/18/2005 5:04:53 PM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Sounds like it was on the desert side of the base. If he'd come down on the opposite end, he could have likely taken out several apartment complexes.

Newspaper out there reads that he fell short - low speed for approach makes it sound like an engine failure - if that's the case, I feel for the guys at Building 858 (if they haven't changed the numbers). It's going to be an interesting investigation panel - I spent time in front of one of them before out there.


4 posted on 03/18/2005 5:07:56 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

LAWN DART BUMP!


5 posted on 03/18/2005 5:08:15 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

We better scrap the whole F-16 program. Its an expensive and unnecessary system that obviously doesn't work. /sarcasm


6 posted on 03/18/2005 5:09:13 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: Raffus

Only if the canopy fails to separate - then the seat has canopy breakers above the pilots head to punch a hole. Otherwise, the canopy is separated from the aircraft with explosive bolts and is jettisoned as the seat comes out of the aircraft.


7 posted on 03/18/2005 5:09:31 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

That's what I was thinking, too--his engine quit and he didn't quit make the runway. Just a guess. We'll have to see what comes later.


8 posted on 03/18/2005 5:10:29 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Say no to gun-control.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Unless the 16 has altitude and airspeed, the only thing he's going to make if he loses the engine is a smoking hole. We watched one crash on the runway out there years ago - a bird in from Germany - had a crappy GE engine in it and it shelled out on approach. He lost it over the threshold, bounced once and at the top, the pilot punched out, bounced again, and folded the mains and crushed the centerline tank (neat fireball), camed down the last time and slid down the runway. The rocket motor in the seat literally melted the cockpit, and you could see the scorch trail going back and to the side and fading away from the ejection.
9 posted on 03/18/2005 5:14:01 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Running out of airspeed, altitude and ideas used to be lethal...now in the PC USAF...who knows.


10 posted on 03/18/2005 5:14:58 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Thanks America for not slapping us in the face again.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
When F-16 pilots have an engine problem they fly a flameout approach profile to give them some chance of making the runway or arresting their sink rate for an ejection. It is a very steep approach and I think it is at a relatively high airspeed compared to normal approaches.

We did the same thing in A-4s in Navy Flight School. The window you were trying to hit was 200 kts, at 200 ft AGL, 1500 ft short of the runway then flare your way to victory.

11 posted on 03/18/2005 5:16:37 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Thanks for the clarification. It was pretty busy and I thought it a little harsh. We were looking at the full mock up of JSF. Since I have zero experience in the AF, I am more than a little naive in these matters.


12 posted on 03/18/2005 5:17:06 PM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The pilot was taken to a hospital, where he was being evaluated and treated for minor scratches.

How come they always come out with minor scratches?

13 posted on 03/18/2005 5:17:06 PM PST by greydog
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To: USNBandit

Problem with the 16 though is if you lose the engine, you have to hope that the EPU kicks in. If it fails, then you have no electric to drive your control surfaces, or your flight control computers. At that point, you might as well be flying an expensive desk. Once/if the EPU fires, you have (if I remember right) around 7 minutes of electricity to get it somewhere safe, after that, it's time to leave the office. If you're at low altitude, low speed, and the EPU hesitates or comes online slowly, you might as well get out.


14 posted on 03/18/2005 5:20:09 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: greydog; USNBandit
It's simple - Pilots are gods.

Or so we always let them believe. Hold up a spare part on taxi though, and watch them panic...

15 posted on 03/18/2005 5:21:40 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (This tagline is Bush's fault.)
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To: Felis_irritable
.....Friday, March 18, 2005 - An Air Force pilot was able to safely eject .....

Amen,.......Infinite Grace and Mercy,.......In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!

(Romans 10:17)

16 posted on 03/18/2005 5:22:46 PM PST by maestro
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To: Prince Caspian
We better scrap the whole F-16 program. Its an expensive and unnecessary system that obviously doesn't work. /sarcasm

I don't think US fighter aircraft crash enough!

You should have seen the attrition rate 30 and 40 years ago. We've got a long way to go to catch up with the past. /sarcasm :^)

17 posted on 03/18/2005 5:22:59 PM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! Drill ANWR !)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Wow, you learn something new every day. The cable installation on the manufacturing floor of the F-16 is amazing. Didn't know these details. Scary.


18 posted on 03/18/2005 5:23:55 PM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: Felis_irritable
Ejections can be lethal.

Old joke: If it works, they can't complain. If it doesn't, they can't complain either. :0)

19 posted on 03/18/2005 5:25:33 PM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! Drill ANWR !)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Maybe he was up against crew day and had to land NOW!

Or, maybe he didn't want to fill out the post flight paperwork.


20 posted on 03/18/2005 5:28:11 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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