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Getting a job or getting into college should be based on social and economic factors instead of race, he added.

Right on, bro! The silly notion that it should be based on qualifications was a plot hatched by white guys who have ruined it for everyone else (and endangered the snail darter while they were at it).

1 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:04 AM PST by freespirited
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In this day and age, TRUTH often evokes outrage.


2 posted on 04/01/2005 9:04:18 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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Getting a job or getting into college should be based on social and economic factors instead of race, he added.

The problem is that was one of the College Republicans [Leigh Dukatt] saying it. How about basing it on grades and talent.

"They're [the club] trying to say affirmative action is based on race, but it's not," said Juan Fortenberry, a kinesiology freshman.

Keep talking that way Juan, and a Florida judge is going to order your feeding tube removed.

3 posted on 04/01/2005 9:10:15 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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Sandella said one group showed up to protest the bake sale by handing out free cookies to anyone who wanted them. The group was asked to leave after Sandella informed the Student Development and Memorial Union Administration Office that the group didn't have a food waiver. "They have the right to protest," Sandella said. "But I didn't want them to violate the University's policy." The policy says anyone who wants to sell or give out food on campus must apply for a food waiver. The College Republicans applied for its food waiver Feb. 8. "We were going to bake ourselves but it would violate policy," Sandella said.

It looks as if the socialists have taken over the pubbies anyhoo!

4 posted on 04/01/2005 9:14:49 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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"Dan Martinez, a biology and society senior. He said affirmative action was a good program that benefited many people."

Indeed. And many people who were more qualified were discriminated against so that lesser qualified people could be benefited. Ya twit.

5 posted on 04/01/2005 9:16:10 AM PST by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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I will say what I have said on countless threads about these bake sales.

If students today were being taught economics, entrepenuership, self reliance, and critical thinking skills instead of the culture of victimhood these bake sales would present a great opportunity.

A member of the minority getting the lowest price would buy ALL of the available products and then sell them at a nice profit.

But no. Instead of seeing opportunity and seizing it. They see offense and act the victim.

6 posted on 04/01/2005 9:19:40 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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"After so many years of oppression, we have to level the playing field somehow," he said.

If Dan Martinez, university senior and science major, would care to discuss the years he spent enduring oppression, I'd love to hear about it.


7 posted on 04/01/2005 9:20:46 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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"They're [the club] trying to say affirmative action is based on race, but it's not," said Juan Fortenberry, a kinesiology freshman.

huh?

8 posted on 04/01/2005 9:22:20 AM PST by Drango
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"They're [the club] trying to say affirmative action is based on race, but it's not," said Juan Fortenberry, a kinesiology freshman.

Well, blow me down. You learn something everyday.

At least there are active Republican groups on campi nowadays. Kids by nature are rebellious. When America was conservative it was chic to be liberal. Now that the colleges are controlled by the left it is rebellious to be conservative. The social pendulum swings slowly but swing it will.

9 posted on 04/01/2005 9:24:05 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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Wrong. Getting into college should be based on merit and not on anything else - race, gender, socio-economic status.


11 posted on 04/01/2005 9:32:12 AM PST by econ_grad
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The problem with AA programs is that they are essentially zero-sum games. Basing admissions on social and economic factors will just discriminate against people whose parents dared to actually work hard and get ahead in life, and will probably just wind up discriminating against middle-class people anyway. The true ultra rich still won't have any problem getting their offspring into the college of their choice.

I am applying to graduate schools next year. I feel I have worked very hard to get where I am and to make the grades that I did.

All I want is to be judged on the merits of my academic performance, not on my skin color or how much money mommy has.


17 posted on 04/01/2005 9:57:50 AM PST by somniferum (All warfare is deception - Sun Tzu)
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Affirmative Action = Racism and bias. If the Declaration of Independence states that "all Men are created equal", then why should we treat others with preference? Each man/woman judged own their own merits.


18 posted on 04/01/2005 10:05:55 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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Didn't they do this last year too?


20 posted on 04/01/2005 10:12:39 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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How about a quota of customers?

In order to buy a cookie there must be so much customer diveristy.

Thus if not enough women have bought cookies, no man can buy a cookie until more women buy a cookie. And NOBODY can buy a cokie until 2.7% admitted homosexuals form the customer group. (it would have to be per hour)

They could put up a quota tote board. Publicly proclaiming customer diversity goals. They could even put in a disclaimer indicating that under no curcumstance will a quota be adjusted to favor males or europeeeeean decent.


22 posted on 04/01/2005 10:27:31 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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"We're giving out actual statistics to engage people in some learning," said Joaquin Rios, a political science freshman. "This is an issue that takes more than 30 seconds to explain."The fliers included information such as poverty rate differences among races, the average income between different races and the percentage of college degrees earned by people of different races.

They forgot to include statistics on the comsumption of cookies,Zingers,and Twinkies by minorities.

"They're [the club] trying to say affirmative action is based on race, but it's not," said Juan Fortenberry, a kinesiology freshman.

Juan,you need one of Joaquin's fliers.

"So much racism is still in this country, and the government still has a responsibility to do something," she said.

The government's responsibility is to make sure that the government is free from racial discrimination.The government is the referee to disputes involving it's citizens,and it should be impartial.The real problem is the government once again taking restrictions on itself,and attempting to apply them to the people.Nobody has the right to tell me or any private citizen how they should perceive another.Discrimination laws should only apply to the government.Private citizens and businesses should not be subject to these laws.Any attempt to enforce anti-discrimination laws against the people must lead to tyranny.

23 posted on 04/01/2005 10:36:24 AM PST by kennyo
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Getting a job or getting into college should be based on social and economic factors instead of race, he added.

The numbskull that said this is a Republican????
Whatever happened to merit?
It's more hopeless than I thought.

25 posted on 04/01/2005 11:14:12 AM PST by Bon mots
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"Many of them approached the booth screaming and accusing the club of being racist. "

Because the prices for them were still too high?


27 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:52 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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