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Stop the Presses - (John Corzine(D) says print more paper money to fix Soc. Sec. problem!)
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE.COM ^ | APRIL 12, 2005 | DeROY MURDOCK

Posted on 04/12/2005 9:07:08 AM PDT by CHARLITE

President George W. Bush traveled April 5 to Parkersburg, West Virginia to visit the so-called Social Security Trust Fund: a filing cabinet filled with paper. "There is no trust fund — just IOUs," backed by no economic assets whatsoever, Bush noted.

Senator Jon Corzine (D., N.J.) called the president's remarks misleading. In a conference call with journalists, Corzine said: "U.S. Treasury securities have the ability to be paid under any circumstances based on the ability of the government to print money." While Corzine's press secretary denies this comment was a concrete proposal, at this writing, the senator proudly highlights this quote on the front page of his website.

So, as Corzine sees it, come 2041, when the federal government's plunging tax revenues will cover only 70 percent of its exploding pension obligations, Washington will trigger Treasury Department printing presses to finance Social Security checks.

Inflating the currency is a dreadful idea that has landed much of Latin America in massive trouble. Like a latter-day Evita Peron, Corzine smiles upon the Argentine economic model: skyrocketing prices, a currency as disposable as Kleenex, and rising social chaos.

Democrats have said many silly things in their crusade to scuttle President Bush's personal retirement accounts, but this must be the stupidest. And to think that Jon Corzine once ran Goldman Sachs!

Corzine's statement has left economists aghast.

*"It's true that we can always pay them [America's Social Security bills] by printing money, but that would mean inflation," says Milton Friedman, the 1976 Nobel laureate in economic science and a senior research fellow with Stanford University's Hoover Institution. "He [Corzine] is right when he says this, but that doesn't mean we don't have to be worried about it," Friedman adds by phone from his San Francisco apartment.

"It's never advisable to print too much money," Friedman warns, due to ensuing inflation. "That's a different form of taxation. It's a hidden form of taxation, but it's taxation nonetheless."

Asked what to expect if Corzine's concept were implemented in 2041, Friedman predicts: "It's going to be a serious problem."

"The 1970s give us a clear indication of what this would be like, but this would be the 1970s magnified," says Krzysztof M. Ostaszewski, actuarial program director and professor of Mathematics at Illinois State University in Normal, Illinois. "There would be inflation only if the Federal Reserve accommodates the federal government and actually adds the money supply. If they do, this could be substantial, because the shortfall amounts to about a quarter of Social Security benefits, and there will be a simultaneous, probably larger, Medicare shortfall, all of this amounting to something like 5 percent of GDP. So realistically this kind of inflationary policy could lead to a shock five time stronger than the current oil price increase, which already has slowed the economy and is felt throughout."

Ostaszewski, an adviser to the Cato Institute's Project on Social Security Choice, sees trouble brewing much sooner.

"I actually think that the pressure will start around 2008. That will be exactly 62 years after 1946," the year the first baby boomer was born. The youngest boomers then could opt for early retirement. "The cost starts rising sharply that year. Either we do something before 2008, or 2008 will become a crucial election. Similarly, the Medicare crisis will start in 2011, because Medicare benefits start at age 65."

"In any case," Ostaszewski adds, "in 2031, Social Security alone already will be missing 2 percent of GDP, and if this is monetized, as Senator Corzine suggests, then we are looking at a 2 percent increase in inflation every year. So, imagine having this inflation scenario starting with current 2-percent inflation: 2 percent, 4 percent, 6 percent, 8 percent, ... and so on. This, of course, would cause a disaster in our bond market, and the value of the currency. For anyone to propose that, as government needs money, we should just create money supply is really quite dangerous."

*"I think one always should be a little worried about someone saying we should not worry about government running the printing presses," says Steve Hanke, a Johns Hopkins University professor and a Forbes columnist. "The thing that isn't being said is that the money going into the trust fund IS NOT SAVED — in capital letters. It's just a captive pool of money that the government taps into to finance general government expenditures other than Social Security."

"I think the senator should be much more worried about a clear accounting on Social Security," Hanke continues. "The idea that the pay-as-you-go concept is a sound savings and retirement system is a fraud. As concerned as the senator has been about transparency in corporate governance, he should pay equal attention to transparency in government accounts. That would include quite a massive restructuring and a lot more transparency in the Social Security system."

*One top Wall Street economist sees Corzine's approach cutting the dollar's value by more than one-third in the first year.

"The monetary base (M0) runs roughly 7 percent of GDP," he says in monetarists' parlance. This is "$768 billion M0 right now versus $12 trillion nominal GDP. Assume that ratio is the same in 2041. The Social Security benefit/receipts gap will be about 2.5 percent of GDP in 2042, I think. So printing that gap with high-powered money would dilute the dollar by 2.5/7 or 36 percent in the first year, so it would weaken that much at least."

This economist defines "high-powered money" as "MO." This includes physical cash plus bank reserves.

"Turkey used to do this (assume some of the budget deficit is printed)," he continues. "Until they dropped six zeroes from their currency last January 1, the Turkish lira was 1.35 million per dollar."

"You're right to make a big deal of it," he adds, requesting anonymity. "The negative consequences are huge, whether the government prints the money, raises taxes to pay the benefits, or suddenly cuts the benefits."

Senator Corzine deserves a sliver of credit for finally hinting at a Democratic answer to Social Security's mounting woes. With that pat on the back, the Garden State's senior senator should step away from the printing presses and go back to the drawing board.

Deroy Murdock, a media fellow with the Hoover Institution, is on the advisory board of the Cato Institute's Project on Social Security Choice.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; crisis; funding; johncorzine; nj; printingmoney; problem; socialsecurity; solving; treasurydept; ussenate; ussenator
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"Democrats have said many silly things in their crusade to scuttle President Bush's personal retirement accounts, but this must be the stupidest. And to think that Jon Corzine once ran Goldman Sachs!"
1 posted on 04/12/2005 9:07:11 AM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

What a maroon.


2 posted on 04/12/2005 9:10:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: CHARLITE

Just more residue from the Clinton "If It Feels Good, Do It" era.


3 posted on 04/12/2005 9:10:18 AM PDT by NordP (Keeping America Great - Rice/Hughes in 2008 ! -- What do you mean, she won't run?)
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To: CHARLITE
Senator Jon Corzine (D., N.J.) called the president's remarks misleading. In a conference call with journalists, Corzine said: "U.S. Treasury securities have the ability to be paid under any circumstances based on the ability of the government to print money."

Which, at the end of the day, would do nothing more than delivery the same inflation-adjusted Social Security benefit than before the presses started running.

4 posted on 04/12/2005 9:10:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: CHARLITE

It's a stupid idea on its face, but mark my words, if the system ever goes insolvent, that's how it will be fixed. Inflation is a tax on every person who holds money. The average shmuck won't have a clue why the value of his currency is falling, and he'll demand price controls, which will lead to shortages.


5 posted on 04/12/2005 9:12:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: CHARLITE

Now there's a good idea. </sarcasm>

This has got to prove that the Dims are not only that, DIM, but desperate as well. Why don't we just pass a law stating that all Americans must buy ONLY Chinese products and make American ones illegal? How's about that one Johnny?


6 posted on 04/12/2005 9:12:31 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: ancient_geezer

Best idea ever for your ping list!


7 posted on 04/12/2005 9:13:13 AM PDT by CSM
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To: CHARLITE

"trust fund": just more double-speak/duck-talk from the people who gave us the term "payroll premiums". (Clintonese for another income tax)
Who do these byrds think they're kidding?


8 posted on 04/12/2005 9:15:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
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To: CHARLITE
Permit me to remind everyone, once again, that this idiot looks like a child molester IMHO:


9 posted on 04/12/2005 9:15:25 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
It's a stupid idea on its face, but mark my words, if the system ever goes insolvent, that's how it will be fixed. Inflation is a tax on every person who holds money. The average shmuck won't have a clue why the value of his currency is falling, and he'll demand price controls, which will lead to shortages.

How can Social Security ever become more insolvent than the rest of the Government? It can always do what the rest of the Government is doing now - just borrow money.

"Deficits don't matter." ;-)

10 posted on 04/12/2005 9:16:36 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: CHARLITE; imawit; arete; Soren; jwh_Denver
"U.S. Treasury securities have the ability to be paid under any circumstances based on the ability of the government to print money."

Precisely! As a gold investor, I should love this guy!

btw, my little gold play got absorbed by a bigger, and better financed gold mining company.

Check it out --- http://www.americanbonanza.com/

11 posted on 04/12/2005 9:20:57 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: CHARLITE

Another Rat just proved how stupid they are.


12 posted on 04/12/2005 9:21:00 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: CHARLITE

and maybe he thinks the minimum wage should be $100,000 annually?


13 posted on 04/12/2005 9:21:21 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Hank Rearden

crikey!


14 posted on 04/12/2005 9:26:28 AM PDT by visualops (God, our Father, we ask You to look with mercy and love on Your servant John Paul. Amen.)
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To: CHARLITE

Didn't someone just post that Chafee was the dumbest Senator?

This thread may change a few minds.


15 posted on 04/12/2005 9:27:05 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: CHARLITE

Unbelievable! The silver content in the coinage is small compared to the 60s. Now the idea is to print more paper money. Sheesh!


16 posted on 04/12/2005 9:29:02 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Kerretarded
Didn't someone just post that Chafee was the dumbest Senator?

No way! Boxer is the dumbest!

No, wait! Patty Murray is dumber than dirt!

No, wait! Corzine the Child Molester.

Sigh, so many candidates.

17 posted on 04/12/2005 9:31:27 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: CHARLITE; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; Zon; ...

Senator Jon Corzine (D., N.J.) called the president's remarks misleading. In a conference call with journalists, Corzine said: "U.S. Treasury securities have the ability to be paid under any circumstances based on the ability of the government to print money." While Corzine's press secretary denies this comment was a concrete proposal, at this writing, the senator proudly highlights this quote on the front page of his website.

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"It's never advisable to print too much money," Friedman warns, due to ensuing inflation. "That's a different form of taxation. It's a hidden form of taxation, but it's taxation nonetheless."

For the candybar I paid a nickle for as a kid, takes a dollar today. Any dollar held across that time has been eroded to nil value by that invisible tax.

A Taxreform bump for you all.

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18 posted on 04/12/2005 9:33:40 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: All

And when your dollar is worth 20 cents, Hillary will say that the poor need it and all you workers owe it to them.


19 posted on 04/12/2005 9:33:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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The Democrats are worried. They need the SS funds for their giveaways. There are never SS funds stacked. The only thing stacked is a bunch of IOU's. It's the old "rob Peter to pay Paul" routine.


20 posted on 04/12/2005 9:36:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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