Posted on 04/14/2005 3:20:52 AM PDT by cooper72
A sister of murdered Belfast man Robert McCartney has said she was threatened at her home in the Short Strand area.
Paula McCartney said a woman told her she would be put out of the area.
The family also said they had to stop handing out leaflets about a vigil in her brother's memory when they were confronted by about a dozen people.
Mr McCartney, 33, was stabbed after a row in a Belfast bar. The IRA has been blamed for the murder and interference with evidence and witnesses.
The family said Mr McCartney's partner, Bridgeen Hagans, was also told to get out of the area.
The incidents happened on Wednesday in the Short Strand area of east Belfast.
Paula McCartney said the crowd who confronted them as they handed out the leaflets "were screaming and shouting abuse and telling us to get out of the district".
She said it was a very threatening situation and that the family had made a complaint to the police.
Vigil
Sisters Paula, Gemma, Donna and Clare McCartney, along with Ms Hagans, were distributing leaflets seeking support for a vigil outside Magennis's bar in Belfast.
Paula said the crowd which gathered "tried to provoke us into physical confrontation but we did not rise to it".
"This was blatant discrimination, very loud and threatening and they were trying to blacken Robert's name," she said.
Speaking on BBC Radio Ulster on Thursday, Sinn Fein councillor Joe O'Donnell said he was aware "an altercation had taken place in the area while the McCartney family were distributing leaflets".
"I had been approached by some members of the family and asked to assist in helping them resolve the situation," Mr O'Donnell said.
"Subsequently other residents claimed they had been the victim of threats and abusive language by some members of the McCartney family."
Mr McCartney had been involved in a row in Magennis's bar on 30 January. He was later found seriously injured near the bar and died in hospital.
No-one has been charged in connection with the murder.
I barely recognized Liam Neeson there. :-)
I was not aware of this tidbit if information. I shall put it to good abuse!
Most likely.
But as Ireland was the only democracy to send commiserations to Germany on Hitler's death, who knows what they would do?
Correction, Eamonn De Valera sent commiserations to Germany on Hitler's death.
Had to look that up. Allow me to add a link:
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~kilmurryonline/history/beal_na_blath/beal_na_blath_&_ml_collins.htm
From the beginning I have feared for the lives of these brave women. Holding the vigil is the right thing to do. Not only from a proper memorializing, but to keep media attention.
When the media fails to be interested in the McCartney sisters it will be the most dangerous time of all for them.
De Valera didn't send anything anywhere. He went to the German Embassy in Dublin and signed the condolences book.
Correction, Eamonn De Valera sent commiserations to Germany on Hitler's death.
So the LEADER of the Irish Free State sends his commiserations to Germany on Hitler's death and it doesn't affect on the people of Ireland? I wonder if Tony Blair sent Iraq a letter of condolence on Saddam's sons dying Britain could say, "He doesn't speak for us, he's only our Prime Minister!" Come on.
To whom did they send their commiserations since Germany was nearly an occupied country by time the Hitler was dead?
De Valera didn't send anything anywhere. He went to the German Embassy in Dublin and signed the condolences book.
So he signed a condolence book on Hitler's death? Well thats all right then eh? I'm sure all the dead soldiers who fought Hitler's Germany, (and protected Ireland), and the 6 million Holocaust victims must feel content at such a nice action of remembrance!.
I am amazed that people think this excusable.
The irony of Northern Ireland is that it is usually deemed a mistake and that if people had a time machine it would not happen the same way. But if there was no Northern Ireland, there would have been less protection for the allied shipping and Britain (with the help or consent of America) would have invaded the west of Ireland to set up naval bases or Britain and Ireland would have died. The other irony is that although De Valera opted out of any honour and disgraced himself, two-thirds of the Irish Free State Army joined the British Army to fight Hitler. With them the Irish spirit flourishes.
Sorry, the above post is for yourself as well.
The Republic of Ireland holds the record for number of Jews saved from the Holocaust.
That is totally untrue.
"Only a handful of Jews came during the Nazi period and shortly after the end of World War II.
The Jewish population peaked at approx. 5,500 in the late 1940's. The numbers have now declined to approx. 1,700."
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/regional_jews/ireland_jews/
Sorry I took you wrong. I apologise.
You are correct about the Irish who fought against Hitler. It is indeed something they should have been proud of.
What I fail to understand is that if Britain fell in 1940-1, which it so very nearly did, why did Ireland think Hitler would have spared them, considering they would have been easy to take and an excellent country to defend an American attack from the Atlantic?
Northern Ireland was under English rule at the time. England was at war with Germany. I don't believe there was a functioning German embassy at the time since nations at war don't allow those with whom they are fighting to maintain embassies.
In fact,those who populate an enemy's embassy are the time war is declared are taken into custody to either be returned to their homeland or interned for the duration of the war.
somebody send that woman a Glock 40.
If you read post 35 please ignore it. I apologize for being very inaccurate in that post.
I google-confirmed this months ago. I suggest you do the same.
Now, as much as I like to put DeVelara down, one has to keep in mind how in 1914 England promised John Redmond and the Irish Volunteers that if they fought for England in WW I, that it would lead an Irish free state. Of course, England reneged and the war for independence had to be fought in-between the two world wars. Thus, DeVelara's, and a considerable number of Irish in general, support for Germany in WW II.
Hitler I should note thought very little of the Irish. Ireland would be the grotty garden of the Third Reich. Remember that many of the British royal family were actually German and Hitler is said to have envisioned himself living in Buckingham Palace.
Can I just point out a few things that you mentioned.
1. Ireland did indeed produce the Irish Free State after WW1.
2. When talking about the history of any of the nations on the British Isles (or anytime in fact) it is unwise and wrong to interchange England and the UK. England is only a part of the UK, albeit the largest part, but no longer exists as a nation-state. All the British isles nations influenced each other. England did not exist in a vacuum.
3. The British Royal family are German if the only valid Americans are Native Americans. Does that mean Irish-Americans aren't really American because their ancestry was from another country?
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