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AUCTIONED HOST TAKEN OFF EBAY AND HANDED OVER TO DIOCESE
Spirit Daily ^ | April 16, 2005 | Mike Brown

Posted on 04/16/2005 9:03:04 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Diva

Nope, at least not our local branch of the Anglican church. They give communion to anybody that steps forward. I attended a partner's funeral and some where offended that I didn't step forward to participate. Strange reaction. I occasionally abstain from communion if I don't honestly believe I am "in communion" that week with my church. I am a KC and ardent supporter, but know that I am not always in the place I should be spiritually to partake. I just stay in my pew and pray.

Oh well, guess I am just an old coot.


41 posted on 04/16/2005 2:33:49 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: Libertina
No offense, but are you saying that CHRISTIANS cannot take communion in a "Catholic" (Christian) church?

No, we are saying that Protestants shall not receive the Body and Blood of Our Saviour in the Most Holy Communion. They would eat and drink their own condemnation according to scripture and Canon Law and the Church has too much mercy to allow them to do that.

42 posted on 04/16/2005 2:41:33 PM PDT by pbear8 (Please,Lord, make the new pope really, really Catholic)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Buy your own copy of the Code of Canon Law. Plainly Catholics may not receive communion in a Protestant church, as what they understand is merely a symbol and the 2000 year old Cathoich Church clearly and unwaveringly understands that Holy Communion is the Body and Blood of Our Lord. Buy a copy of "Faith of our Father" as well.


43 posted on 04/16/2005 2:45:16 PM PDT by pbear8 (Please,Lord, make the new pope really, really Catholic)
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To: pbear8
They would eat and drink their own condemnation according to scripture and Canon Law

Excuse my ignorance, but where do you read that in Scripture? As for Canon Law, this is man-made law.

44 posted on 04/16/2005 2:46:39 PM PDT by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

But if you don't believe it's the Body of Christ, then why do you feel the need to receive it in a Catholic Church? I don't understand the angst about Catholics being non-inclusive. You are more than welcome to receive a blessing from the priest, and there are plenty of Catholics that do the same thing if they don't feel that they are in the proper state to receive communion.


45 posted on 04/16/2005 2:47:18 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

But if you don't believe it's the Body of Christ, then why do you feel the need to receive it in a Catholic Church? I don't understand the angst about Catholics being non-inclusive. You are more than welcome to receive a blessing from the priest, and there are plenty of Catholics that do the same thing if they don't feel that they are in the proper state to receive communion.


46 posted on 04/16/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Former Fetus
1Cor 11:29

11:23
For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

11:24
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

11:25
After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

11:26
For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

11:27
Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

11:28
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

47 posted on 04/16/2005 2:54:24 PM PDT by pbear8 (Please,Lord, make the new pope really, really Catholic)
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To: Ann Archy
OMG! As a Non-Catholic he should have NEVER gone up for Holy Communion...PERIOD!

He followed the lead of Klintoon!

48 posted on 04/16/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Madeline Albright's image, my name should show up!)
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To: Aggie Mama

I believe that communion is done in rememberance of Christ's sacrifie and it is a symbol of our faith. Protestants don't "check" someone's faith and determine who is or is not worthy of communion. Such determinations are left to God. So, communion is shared by all.

I don't believe that the host and wine are actually the body and the blood of Christ. That's where I have trouble. Is this written in the Bible?


49 posted on 04/16/2005 2:54:28 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: Former Fetus
"It follows that anyone who eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty of offending against the body and blood of the Lord....For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink their own condemnation." 1 Cor 11:27-29
50 posted on 04/16/2005 2:56:23 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Luke 22:19, "And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, ''This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me." Jesus says the bread is his body and commands us to continue the sacrament (he doesn't say "This represents my body"). The other Last Supper accounts which say much the same thing (Matt 26:26-28; Mark 14:22, 24; 1 Cor 11:23-25 and Lk 22:19-20;).

There's also John 6:47-66. I won't quote the whole thing, but it's worth looking at. John 6:55 - "For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink".

1 Cor 10:16 says - "Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?"


51 posted on 04/16/2005 2:59:19 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: seamole
Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but shouldn't natural processes have served to cause mold or other decay of the Host by now? If the mold or other decay was not found on the Host, wouldn't that be rather...inexplicable?

I dunno. You ever look at a box of those things (unconsecrated)? They're about as close to cardboard as you can get and still have it be edible. Wrapped up, it would likely keep just fine for many years.

52 posted on 04/16/2005 3:08:35 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Proud Member of the WPPFF Death Cult - We're coming after YOU next!)
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To: xone; All

I read the (many) replies and appreciate that (Catholics ?) took the time to answer. As to the question about taking communion, it is a CHRISTIAN action, not a Catholic one. All Christian churches believe that it is the Body of Christ. Why do you write as though Catholics have the goods on that more than anyone else? Do you think the rest of us Christians just look at Communion as a snack during the service? It seems so very haughty.

For a Christian church to deny Christian visitors communion is indefensible IMO. I lived in a place where I had no option but a Catholic church, so I should be denied communion because I was only a "Christian"? I have often heard people describe some believers as "Catholic" - not Christian - I can now begin to understand why.

FWIW, the rest of us "lowly" Protestants, Baptists, Episcopalians (Christians) etc. seem to get along fine. I cannot conceive of the elitism and discourteousness of telling a CHRISTIAN in my church that they were not welcome. While the replies to me have been fairly courteous, no doubt some Catholic poster here probably believes we non-Catholics shouldn't even be allowed to comment on this "private" thread...


53 posted on 04/16/2005 3:56:39 PM PDT by Libertina (Washington State... Western branch office of FloriDUH elections.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Pan's wife... Ah a fellow "lowly" Christian. (Not Catholic) ;) Remember the part in Revelation where Jesus speaks to the Dead church, the Luke Warm church etc? I think here we have the Prideful Church.


54 posted on 04/16/2005 4:00:21 PM PDT by Libertina (Washington State... Western branch office of FloriDUH elections.)
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To: Libertina

Not all christian churches hold that the consecrated host is the actual, not symbolic, body of Christ.


55 posted on 04/16/2005 4:14:00 PM PDT by omegatoo
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To: Libertina

I think not. I would never claim to be able to judge who is worthy to be in His church. That's His alone.


56 posted on 04/16/2005 4:19:42 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: Libertina

"All Christian churches believe that it is the Body of Christ."

No, sadly. What denomination are you?


57 posted on 04/16/2005 4:22:51 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: NYer
I was really disgusted that EBay would not pull it. Even if they think it's laughable that we believe that consecrated Host *is* the Body of Christ, you would think the fear of offending others would cause them to pull it. Instead, they were defiant.

Sh*tting on Catholics remains the one acceptable form of bigotry in this country.
58 posted on 04/16/2005 4:30:01 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Libertina
No offense, but are you saying that CHRISTIANS cannot take communion in a "Catholic" (Christian) church? This is one area where I think Catholics need to re-assess their dogma.

The absolute nerve of you. When you become a Catholic, then maybe you can have a say about how we distribute our holy Sacraments. Until then, keep your mouth shut.
59 posted on 04/16/2005 4:31:46 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: StPatricksBreastplate; Libertina
Why do people who disagree with Catholic dogma think the Church needs to 'rethink' her dogma?

Because they're obnoxious, self-important, big mouths.
60 posted on 04/16/2005 4:33:18 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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