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If French reject EU constitution, Turkey would be screwed. Despite all efforts to placate Europeans to get in EU, it may not get in.

I have never expected that French themselves would torpedo EU. Life does have strange twists.

1 posted on 04/17/2005 10:57:34 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; ScaniaBoy; MadIvan; longjack; pepsionice; Leifur; Atlantic Friend; Marie007; ...

I solicit your informed opinion.:-)


2 posted on 04/17/2005 10:59:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Frenchies should be punished by other EUnuchs.
3 posted on 04/17/2005 11:00:49 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Some EU officials fear that if France rejects the constitution it may not be possible to begin the entry negotiations with Turkey in October this year, as scheduled. A longer term promise to allow the whole of the Balkans to enter the EU is at the heart of international efforts to stabilise the former Yugoslavia

And the admission of millions of Muslims and members of terrorist groups will be good for Europe because?

4 posted on 04/17/2005 11:05:56 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (What does the wolf care how many sheep there be?)
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Hehe, you should see the grin on my face :)

I absolutely loathe the EU, and would like nothing better to see it get a blow like that, on the Brusselite wictory day, see them crumble before their own ardant supporters until this day. This constutional treaty is the fullfilment of the hope of these people to get absolute power regardless of what the old european democracies want, so it is maybe not surprisingly that france are recognising the threat from it, though the spoiled political elite wants it as nothing else, as it will rid them of accountability to their subjects.

Some of my eurosceptic friends are though hoping for this treaty to pass in France, as they are hoping for a British no, that would eventually lead to Britain escaping the EU and with us and the rest of EFTA to bond better towards cross atlantic relations, maybe by unifying NAFTA and EFTA into some kind of TAFTA (trans-atlantic free trade area) giving european countries another option to the evil EU.

But as I am not only looking after what is good for Iceland, but also the rest of humans (I am so much idealist) I hope the treaty will be rejected and then all "ever closer union" ideas to be abandaned and then the EU can hopefully develop to its only acceptable role as a free trade zone of individual, independant nations. But if it will be rejected, I know they will just put forfard another vote, and another until it is accepted, then there will be no more votes, so my dreams are, like most ideals, unrealistic.

I even, although beeing an christian conservative against free immigration across the continent, have supported Turkey´s membership, as it will just make the EU even more alien to Icelanders and thus even more unattractive. This treaty will have the same effects as that, both to Icelanders, and hopefully also for the Norweegians, the British, and even the Danish. If those of those that are within the EU will reject it, maybe an alternative to the EU can come to pass.

It would though be nice to get american support for such an alternative, some kind of transatlantic free trade zone. And it will be in your best interests I beliewe, as the European (EU) nationalists (as opposed to individual nations patriots) are hell bent on becoming America´s rival, thus destroying the cooperation and allience of democratic countries in the world and thus giving the socialistic and other forms of tyrannies in the world a change to win the eternal struggle.


6 posted on 04/17/2005 11:41:41 AM PDT by Leifur (Time for regime change in Europe: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351257/posts)
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Turkey will never be allowed in the EU. Not Ever. That they pose this as a result of a No vote is as comic as it is sureal.


7 posted on 04/17/2005 11:54:53 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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bump!


8 posted on 04/17/2005 12:10:07 PM PDT by lutz
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At the bottom of all this hand-wringing and pomposity - I wonder if the average euroguy on the street hasn't become just a bit worried about all this 'bigger and better' stuff?

Even the collaborators must remember that everytime someone from the outside came along to make trains run on time or make sure that everyone got what they needed from the government it really meant an occupation of one sort or another.

11 posted on 04/17/2005 12:27:39 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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Well the narcissistic frenchies don't want to be just a "state".

Surprise, surprise.

Maybe all that anti-American rhetoric by Chirac actually backfired on him in this instance.

13 posted on 04/17/2005 1:07:03 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants ....Terri Schiavo, "Where there's life, there's hope.")
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One of the new pontiff's first acts should be to denounce this unholy eurotrash document.


16 posted on 04/17/2005 1:51:38 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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