Do Women Really Want a Male Birth Control Pill?

Newsday ^ | 4/11/05 | Glenn Sacks

[goldstategop]

Some women lie about taking birth control to trap their men into marrying them. The man is not a lover but a lifetime meal ticket for them and their baby. Its too good a temptation to resist.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

Sigmund Freud's death bed wish supposedly was to inquire into "What do women want?" Even Mel Gibson couldn't answer it by being able to "listen" into women's thoughts. Today men are still as clueless as in Freud's time about what women want.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

Nope. Men like sex but are terrified of pregnancy. With the birth control pill, they can finally milk the cow for free. One can only imagine where that leaves the women when comes to employing sex as a weapon in keeping the male gender in line.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Oberon]

One can only imagine where that leaves the women when comes to employing sex as a weapon in keeping the male gender in line.

Eh. I'm happily married, but no woman has this power over me.

[Starwolf]

I am hard working, reliable, and trustworthy, or at least that is what my wife tells people about me. However, we both ride touring motorcycles (i.e.not curisers/Harleys). I know a number of similar single riders. Don't write us all off...

[halieus]

The pill DOES prevent fertilization by producing too much mucus on the egg to prevent the sperm from penetrating. It is NOT an abortifectant.

No, actually that's only partially correct. The pill works three ways: 1) prevention of ovulation 2) thickening of cervical mucus to block sperm from entering cervix 3) by shedding a fertilized egg before implantation.

Studies have not yet determined just how often "breakthrough ovulation" occurs --meaning, how often the Pill fails to block ovulation-- but it may be anywhere from .4% - 20% of the time. The mini-pill has a much higher rate of breakthrough ovulation.

As a Christian I cannot in good conscience support the use of anything that might prevent a fertilized egg from implanting (the definition of an abortifacient).

[Hi Heels]

Ask them. *shrug* I work with a hundred younger women, and the trend now is that they don't WANT to have kids. Most say they watched their mothers meet the demands of motherhood and career both with little or no support from men and don't wanna play. I'M NOT NOT NOT SAYING ALL MEN ARE BAD OR PERFORM IN THIS MANNER. PLEASE NOTE BEFORE SLAMMING FLAME BUTTON, GENTLEMEN.

Now, personally, if my husband forbid me to have children and presented this by taking a drug that prevented reproduction, he'd be up for auction. Up on the block. Highest bidder. Whether it's a man or a woman, taking matters into your own hands (no pun intended) and making a decision alone without the input of your spouse is a mistake that I think will become fatal to the relationship.

[Goodgirlinred]

I agree on your second paragraph. As to your first paragraph: I have three daughters, ages 30, 33, and 36. The 30 year old is a working mother and has 2 children ages 2 and 7; the 33 year old is a working mother and has 3 children ages 8 months, 3 and 5 and a step-son age 13 who is there part of the time; the 36 year old works in the home by babysitting several children and has 3 children ages 1, 8, and 14. All of their husbands have always helped with childcare responsibilities since the day each child was born. They also help with household responsibilities. My late husband also helped with childcare responsibilities and household responsibilities even before I became a working mother.

All men are not alike. These girls just have to find a good man. Also, none of these men, my late husband included, had done any of these things before marriage. However, they wanted to be married and they wanted to be fathers. That makes a big difference.

[Goodgirlinred]

Ok, sorry. I guess I just picture everybody as part of Hell's Angels. And he did say "Bad boys."

[Hi Heels]

"I'M NOT NOT NOT SAYING ALL MEN ARE BAD OR PERFORM IN THIS MANNER. PLEASE NOTE BEFORE SLAMMING FLAME BUTTON, GENTLEMEN Goodgirlinred."

Like I said, not all men are like this or are bad. I happen to have one (a man) who I would say is a very good man. I can't imagine him neglecting his obligations. I've also had others that did. I'm also a single mom-past child bearing age. I'm saying that a majority of the women I work with who are younger would prefer NOT to marry, NOT to have children. I've also stated that if the husband takes the matter of whether or not to have children and makes it a solo decision on his part, the marriage will be in trouble. That is, what I stated also, my opinion.

What is happening with your children has no bearing on what is happening here or in general. Evidence can be provided on any topic to present an opposite opinion. Perhaps they are the exception to the rule, in which case, they should be commended.

However, I polled the office this morning. There are 81 women here today. Of them 24 of them are married, 16 of them live with a man. 5 of them are over child bearing age. That leaves 36 women. Of the 36 women remaining, 28 of them say they will not marry. That's nearly 80%. Of the 28 remaining, 11 do not wish to have children. Ever. That's 40% and a real scary number. Of the 28, 4 of them are single moms. 3 of those single moms have no support from the fathers. Neither do I. It happens.

[Goodgirlinred]

That is so sad. I was not flaming. You said that these girls were going by what they saw their mothers going through. I just wanted to point out that there are young men out there who are good fathers and husbands. Also, that men 30 years ago were good fathers and husbands. All of our friends (the husbands) did the same. Of course, we live in rural Virginia. Maybe guys in the city do not do this. I don't know. I know a young man who recently moved back to D.C. He never wants to marry or have children. Several of my daughters' friends have never married or had children. They live in big cities. I know it happens. However, I don't think that makes for a majority. Most of the young people that I know want to marry and have families. Again, maybe it is the young people in the cities in high power professional careers who do not want to marry and have children. Perhaps they have made a good choice. That young man that I knew once asked me if you can pay people to play with your children. He definitely should not be a father.

[Hi Heels]

That young man that I knew once asked me if you can pay people to play with your children. He definitely should not be a father.

OMG!! Whenever I drop my daughter off at my girlfriend's, I always say I'll pick her up after nursing college, but I'm KIDDING.

I think you may be onto something about rural vs city. But this is Simi Valley. Home of the Reagans. Conservative. AND there's only 120,000 people here.

Sometimes I think with all the diseases and selfishness we're evolving into a dying society.

[Goodgirlinred]

ONLY 120,000 people there!!! My goodness. My gosh, the entire county in which I live has a population of only about 61,200! The City has a population of 6,400! LOL! Quite different. This is rural Virginia. My younger daughter lives behind me on family land. We are conservative here, too.

However, my older daughter lives in a much larger city in another area 45 minutes from here, and my middle daughter lives in a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. I don't know about most people there, but she is conservative and making a conservative out of her husband, too. :)

[RockinRight]

From what I hear, the numbers vary. My friend who is a pro-life, female pre-med student says that the #1 way is what happens about 97.3% of the time. If/when the egg does get fertilized and is "aborted" the studies aren't clear as to whether it would have done so even without the pill.