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Adult Smoking Rate Shows Record Drop
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | April 21, 2005 | James P. Sweeney

Posted on 04/21/2005 4:31:13 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds

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To: Scenic Sounds; SheLion

"These kids are growing up in a world where smoking is not appropriate, it's not fashionable," Stevens said. "They know the dangers and they look at people who smoke and say, 'What's wrong with you?' "




What's wrong with me? Nothing!

A nice little generation of intolerant,rude young libs seem to be growing up in California.

Awful!


21 posted on 04/21/2005 5:16:49 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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To: Mears
A nice little generation of intolerant,rude young libs seem to be growing up in California.

And who needs cigarettes when they are popping ecstasy?

22 posted on 04/21/2005 5:18:40 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Marguerite
Smoking is heaven ;-)

Ah, but it's nothing compared to the pleasure of hawking up a nice big load of brown phlegm in the morning!

23 posted on 04/21/2005 5:23:25 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Ah, but it's nothing compared to the pleasure of hawking up a nice big load of brown phlegm in the morning!

Ack! So sorry to hear that.   That has never been my experience.

24 posted on 04/21/2005 5:25:24 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

You've got that right,ecstasy,oral sex,and binge drinking are "in" now!

As long as these young folks don't smoke,though,they'll be okay!! LOL


25 posted on 04/21/2005 5:25:27 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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To: Mears
You've got that right,ecstasy,oral sex,and binge drinking are "in" now!

As long as these young folks don't smoke,though,they'll be okay!! LOL

That's right.  And underage drinking and driving is prevalent in Maine.  A lot of teens are drinking, driving and found in twisted pieces of metal they wrapped around a tree.  Not a pretty picture. 

If all they did was smoke, they would still be with us.

26 posted on 04/21/2005 5:27:56 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
This is good news, right? ;-)

Yes, this is very good news.

First, because it has happened without smoking or tobacco products being made illegal.

Second, because it means a huge percentage of the money we spend today on Medicare and Medicaid will likely not have to be spent for the next 50 years.

There is a myth floating about that smoking saves healthcare dollars because smokers die younger and use less medical resources.

This may once have been true but today we spend a tremendous amount on medications, oxygen, CPAPs and BPAPs and Nebulizers and inhalers and gawd knows what else to keep failing lungs functioning, often in long term institutional settings, such as nursing homes and VA hospitals.

Those exorbitant costs promise to nosedive quickly as the chronic smokers pass and the new aging population is made up of people who either never smoked or quit long years prior.

Yes, this is very good news, unless you deal in tobacco for a living.

27 posted on 04/21/2005 5:33:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
This is good news, right? ;-)

That was not my post.

28 posted on 04/21/2005 5:36:30 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

"And who needs cigarettes when they are popping ecstasy?"

Don't forget the big push to smoke marijuana!!


29 posted on 04/21/2005 5:37:00 PM PDT by borntobeagle
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To: hinckley buzzard
Yes, this is very good news, unless you deal in tobacco for a living.

Think of it this way:  the lawmakers use the smoker's tax dollars to balance their budgets and to keep their pet programs running.  If everyone quit smoking, guess who they will be coming after?  YOU. 

Hey!  Someone has to make up for all of that lost revenue, right?!

30 posted on 04/21/2005 5:39:03 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

killjoy! ;-)

Never happens to me, I'm that lucky girl.


31 posted on 04/21/2005 5:39:15 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Since 1988, when voters passed the tobacco tax, California's adult smoking rate has fallen over 32 percent, from 22.8 percent to 15.4 percent.

What a crock of Barbra Streisand.........only an anti-smoker or bureaucrat believes that.

The danged numbers come from sales of tobacco products - just because folks ain't buyin'em in Cally don't mean they ain't using them........

Idiocy - shear idiocy.

32 posted on 04/21/2005 5:41:18 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: martin_fierro

Thanks for the ping, my FRiend!


33 posted on 04/21/2005 5:41:51 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Good news on balance, but I have mixed emotions.

Like most FReepers, I abhor heavy-handed government tactics designed to bring about behavioral changes -- outright smoking bans in bars and restaurants; "sin" taxes (personally, I think the tax rate on Marlboros, Dewar's Scotch, Shell 93 Octane, and skim milk should be the same); and the constant "you're gonna die if you don't quit doing that" barrage are all annoying.

On the other hand, I hate smoking, and do what I can short of rudeness to avoid smokers. Here in the heart of tobacco country, I suspect the percentage of adults who smoke is closer to 20% than to the 15.4% percent being reported in California. Still, non-smokers form a huge majority, and it's growing. So I would hope that stats such as those quoted in this story would help convince more bars and restaurants to voluntarily go smoke-free. Perhaps if enough establishments made that choice (particularly "high end" places, given the strong inverse relationship between smoking and income levels), government prohibitions might be staved off.

34 posted on 04/21/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (UNC Tar Heels: NCAA Basketball Champions 1957/1982/1993/2005)
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To: borntobeagle
Don't forget the big push to smoke marijuana!!

That's right.  Smokers are being trashed while the groups are lobbying the state houses to make marijuana legal.

Crazy, isn't it?  But I would still rather pass a smoker on the interstate any day then a pot user.

35 posted on 04/21/2005 5:44:33 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
Think of it this way: the lawmakers use the smoker's tax dollars to balance their budgets and to keep their pet programs running.

They'll have to catch me first!

At least a few of their pet programs will cost a good deal less.

36 posted on 04/21/2005 5:45:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Gabz
Thanks for the ping, my FRiend!

I pinged you as well in my first post #16.

37 posted on 04/21/2005 5:46:43 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
At least a few of their pet programs will cost a good deal less.

A lot less then what?  Didn't you read the post up above of just how much smokers are contributing to the revenue in California?  That doesn't mean anything to you?

The state is quite used to raping in all that money to their coffers.  When the smokers start buying elsewhere, someone else is going to have to cough up that money.  The lawmakers aren't going to give up their pet programs so easily.  And you can count on it.

38 posted on 04/21/2005 5:50:26 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Scenic Sounds

"'What's wrong with you?'"

Well to start of with, you little mind encrusted creation of Kalifornia............


39 posted on 04/21/2005 5:52:52 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (The Good News of the Gospel of Christ really is Good News!)
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To: Scenic Sounds

California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban

While cops try to sniff out the worst offenders, in many cases they're butting up against organized opposition. Bartender phone trees warn each other of impending busts, powerful fans blow away tell-tale scents of "smokin' in the boys room" and tin cans double as ashtrays in case of an unexpected visit by police.

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40 posted on 04/21/2005 5:54:22 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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