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Pentagon proposes bunker bomb sale to Israel
Reuters ^ | 4/26/05

Posted on 04/26/2005 4:57:01 PM PDT by TexKat

WASHINGTON, April 26 (Reuters) - The Pentagon notified Congress on Tuesday of a proposed sale to Israel of 100 guided bunker-busting bombs, a move that analysts said could prompt concerns about a unilateral Israel strike against Iran. Israel has requested the sale of the Lockheed Martin Corp. GBU-28s worth as much as $30 million, the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a notice required by law for government-to-government military sales.

The GBU-28 was developed for penetrating hardened command centers located deep underground and would be used by the Israeli Air Force on their U.S.-built F-15 aircraft, the agency said.

Israel -- believed to be the Middle East's only nuclear armed state -- has denied speculation that it might make a military strike on Iran to prevent it from producing an atomic bomb.

In 1981 Israel sent jets to bomb an Iraqi reactor, driving Saddam Hussein's quest for a bomb underground, and fueling speculation of a similar strike on Iran.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in a interview with CNN earlier this month, said his country was not planning any military attack on Iran.

Sharon, in a separate interview with Fox News, said: "Of course we take all precautions and all the steps to defend ourselves. But it's not that Israel should give the answer to the international problem" of Iran potentially developing a bomb.

In January, Vice President Dick Cheney warned Israel could in the future try to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said the sale of the GBU-28s would "not affect the basic military balance in the region."

John Isaacs, president of the Council for a Livable World, said the proposed sale was clearly "a provocative step" that would prompt concerns about a unilateral Israel strike, particularly in Iran and elsewhere in the Middle East.

"One could be suspicious that these bombs could be used for an Israeli attack on Iran," Isaacs said, noting that the bunker-busting bombs in question were nonnuclear, which limited their ability to dig far underground.

"This particular munition is designed to destroy deeply buried high-value assets such as command centers or nuclear weapons facilities," agreed Loren Thompson at the Virginia-based Lexington Institute. "Draw your own conclusions."

The success of any such strike on possible Iranian nuclear facilities would depend on the quality of intelligence about the location of such facilities, as well as how far underground such sites were buried, Isaacs said.

"It's not a slam-dunk in any way," he added.

Once notified, Congress has 30 days to reject planned foreign military sales but rarely does so.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; bombs; bunkerbuster; bunkerbustingbombs; iran; israel; middleeast; miltech; pentagon; unilateral
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1 posted on 04/26/2005 4:57:04 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

I say go for it---of course Israel should have bunker busters, at least they aren't too squishy to go after Irans nukes if necessary!


2 posted on 04/26/2005 4:58:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: TexKat

Have we remembered to thank Israel for taking out that Iraqi reactor?


3 posted on 04/26/2005 4:59:15 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: TexKat
(Reuters) huh?

GO AHEAD AND WHACK IRAN!

4 posted on 04/26/2005 4:59:29 PM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: TexKat

Good idea.


5 posted on 04/26/2005 5:00:31 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: TexKat

We should just send them the plans. All the nuclear plans and nuclear code from the nuclear arsenal at Los Alamos were sent to China during the Pigton years. And of course, we had to make sure the Chinese got the guidance secrets as well so they could actually deliver a bomb as opposed to just build them.

Send Israel the plans. The Chinese already got 'em.


6 posted on 04/26/2005 5:01:02 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: TexKat
The Pentagon notified Congress on Tuesday of a proposed sale to Israel of 100 guided bunker-busting bombs, a move that analysts said could prompt concerns about a unilateral Israel strike against Iran.

Concerns? Hope is more like it.

7 posted on 04/26/2005 5:04:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Txsleuth

How about exporting the nuke bunker buster program to Israel?


8 posted on 04/26/2005 5:07:44 PM PDT by yooling (Screw diversity! Celebrate excellence!)
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To: TexKat

As if Israel couldn't turn old tank barrels into bunker busters all on their own.

Their deserts are littered with old T-54 turrets.


9 posted on 04/26/2005 5:09:46 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: yooling

Nope---we need some too---but that doesn't mean we shouldn't SHARE with our friends!!!!

Besides, my son-in-law mother works for Lockheed Martin, so that is not a bad thing,,, LOL


10 posted on 04/26/2005 5:11:27 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: putupjob
Don't forget the MIRV technology Clinton sold to the Chicoms. This really increases their potential bang for the buck.
11 posted on 04/26/2005 5:21:31 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: Txsleuth

Why? If you sell it to Israel, you might as well be selling it to China because that's where it will end up.


12 posted on 04/26/2005 5:21:54 PM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: TexKat
...a move that analysts said could prompt concerns about a unilateral Israel strike against Iran.

I think that's the whole idea.

Bush/Rice have loads of common sense that diplomacy alone isn't going to solve this problem. Carrot and stick instead -- with more emphasis on the stick than it appears at first glance. So while they give lip service to the European efforts at diplomacy, they ensure that such a proposed sale is not exactly kept secret. They know that the mullahs may still be able to con themselves into thinking the Americans can do nothing because of public pressure and being tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan, figuring they can wait out Bush's second term for a squishy Democratic administration. Not an unreasonable calculation. But they have no illusions about whether Israel will go for it if Israel feels threatened. So Israel becomes the foaming-at-the-mouth Rottweiler and America presents itself as the only man holding the leash. Then Bush and Rice let a tiny bit of foam drip from the corners of their mouths for effect.

13 posted on 04/26/2005 5:24:02 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Southack
Okay, now, THIS is SLICK.

America won't have dirty hands on the inevitable Iran Nuke Facility strike.

:o)

14 posted on 04/26/2005 5:24:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Dr. Marten; yooling

I have a question, I am not the only one on this thread that is in favor of this, but as far as I can tell, I am the only one getting questioned about the nukes and China, so I kinda wonder, why?


15 posted on 04/26/2005 5:30:22 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: TexKat

"knock knock"
"who's there?"
" Is"
"Is who? "
"Israel ! "


16 posted on 04/26/2005 5:43:15 PM PDT by injin
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To: Txsleuth

Well, I didn't read anyone elses post, but I would say it's probably becuase yours is the first one under the article.

I on the other hand, directed it to you because of your statement.

I don't trust Israel because of their relationship with China. I used to side with the Israelis, but since they are in bed with China..let the Chinese defend them.


17 posted on 04/26/2005 5:54:14 PM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: TexKat
Interesting. . .but keep in mind this has been in the works for a long time. Additionally, for Israel to fly that sort of strike they need to traverse Iraqi airspace and they are not given the codes, the IFF/Mode IV codes to identify them as friendly and on the ATO.

We will not give them that info. Won't do that. The CAOC will not release it and any Israeli jet that tries to fly through coalition airspace will be shot down. Period.

Keep in mind that during Gulf War I and Israel was being hit by Scuds they blustered and ranted and threatened to fly retaliatory strikes but never did. . .and the reason was we didn't give them the codes. They would have been splattered easily by our jets. . .and this was in the middle of a shooting war and Israel was being hit and we didn't provide the codes, and today is discussion time and hand-wringing.
18 posted on 04/26/2005 6:18:11 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: SmithL

Good question!

Here, I'll do my part - Thanks to the military and people of Israel for taking out the Osirik reactor in '81.


19 posted on 04/26/2005 6:23:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: TexKat

The Pentagon notified Congress on Tuesday of a proposed sale to Israel of 100 guided bunker-busting bombs, a move that analysts said could prompt concerns about a unilateral Israel strike against Iran. Israel has requested the sale of the Lockheed Martin Corp. GBU-28s worth as much as $30 million, the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a notice required by law for government-to-government military sales.
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I love how they call this a 'sale' when we are really just buying it from outselves using our defense subsidy money. It would save a lot of paperwork if we just sent the bombs and kept the money.


20 posted on 04/26/2005 6:24:48 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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