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To: muawiyah

I don't think all honor goes to the Union Army. The Confederate Soldiers were also fighting for their country. They weren't all fighting to keep slaves. Most of them were poor boys who would never be slave owners. They were patriots, according to the standards of their community.

But the point here is that when some African Americans today demand "reparations", it's helpful to point out all the Union Soldiers who died to end slavery. In terms of the "reparations" argument, it doesn't add much to talk about the honor of the Confederate Soldiers who died, and who were honorable, but who don't add to the equation of "reparations".

The bottom line is, slavery was ended by the Brits and the Americans much earlier than it was ended in other countries. Slavery continues in Africa today. Leftists the world over ignore that continuing slavery, including Leftist One himself, Koffi (Show Me The Money) Annan.

One more point about "reparations": Many different immigrants came to the New World in a variety of different ways. However they got here, their decendents are better off today than had they never arrived on these shores. That includes African Americans.

Sad as it sounds (and it is sad), the only possible way for Africans to join the New World in the early centuries of the building of the Americas, was as slaves. Sad but true. Sad for the slaves. Not sad for the decendants, none of whom are yearning to return to the "homeland", which in many cases includes countries where slavery is actively practised today.


18 posted on 04/30/2005 6:20:54 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
I was merely pointing to an apparant inaccuracy in the number of wardead on the Union side, and who they might have been.

You guys seem to want to discuss raparations.

I think we'd be ahead of things discussing how the Mob has infiltrated every nook and cranny of government and business in the State of Rhode Island, and why that would be a good reason to disestablish them as a state once and for all.

Why does this sort of thing always have to be about the South anyway?

19 posted on 04/30/2005 6:24:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: samtheman
Thank you!

Freed slaves and blacks were not allow to fight until late in the war. They were also normally kept in the back line as support units. They were also not allowed to fight along side their white counterparts. They were kept in all black units. The vast majority of deaths were people of European decent. Most were poor farmers who had very little to loose. Most volunteered and gave their lives freely.

I believe someone else needs to check their civil war facts.

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29 posted on 04/30/2005 7:21:38 AM PDT by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: samtheman

One other point: The Africans sold their OWN people into slavery. Maybe they should pay.


64 posted on 04/30/2005 10:16:52 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: samtheman
Sad as it sounds (and it is sad), the only possible way for Africans to join the New World in the early centuries of the building of the Americas, was as slaves. Sad but true. Sad for the slaves. Not sad for the decendants, none of whom are yearning to return to the "homeland", which in many cases includes countries where slavery is actively practised today.

"Sad for the slaves" must be regarded in context, because if the black Africans who enslaved them hadn't sold them to white slavers, they probably would have been eaten. I have no doubt that slavery sucks, but being consumed has to suck even more.

91 posted on 04/30/2005 1:49:28 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Dino Rossi in 2005! Then give Dean Logan 2 years in the Crossbar Hotel.)
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