Former Bush aide: 2008 Democratic nomination belongs to Hillary

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Former Bush aide: 2008 Democratic nomination belongs to Hillary Saturday April 30, 2005

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) A former aide to President Bush says the 2008 Democratic nomination for president is all Hillary Rodham Clinton's if she wants it.

But former Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer said Clinton, now a Democratic senator representing New York, has no chance of actually becoming president.

Fleischer's comments were made Friday as he spoke at an Oneida County luncheon attended by supporters of Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-New Hartford.

Fleischer said there's not a Democrat anywhere in the country that can beat Mrs. Clinton in a Democratic primary.

``She is the passion of the party,'' Fleischer said.

Still, he said while there's no clear successor to George W. Bush, he predicted another Republican will ultimately take the White House again in 2008. Fleischer said Democrats have become the party of Fahrenheit 9-11 filmaker Michael Moore and the liberal wing, which he claims is out of touch with a nation that is becoming increasingly conservative.

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too early in the morning to comment.....

[kcvl]

bttt

[leadpenny]

too early in the morning to comment.....

Exactly. I need some strong coffee first.

[backhoe]

``She is the passion of the party,'' Fleischer said.

Ghastly thought, but probably true. Emetic, please...

[garylmoore]

Ari Fleischer said Clinton, now a Democratic senator representing New York, has no chance of actually becoming president.

PTL for that.

[elcid1970]

The passion of the party. Hmmm. In the Spanish Civil War the most fanatical communist was a woman known as La Pasionaria.

[Proud_texan]

I saw the headline and thought, OMG, figuring the article would also predict that she'd be elected.

But I agree with Ari, no way she, or for that matter, Rice, could win.

But I do slightly disagree on her being the passion of the party. I'm hardly plugged into their thinking but do the big money orgs like MoveOn and Sorus have any affection for Hillary given her (pathetic) lurches to the center or do they recognize it as a political necesessity?

[leadhead]

,,,Sorus have any affection for Hillary..

His only worry is.. will she stay bought? Her history of going to the highest, most recent bidder bothers him, but not much.

[ARCADIA]

2008 is going to be a hard contest for the Democrats. There is no Bush out there to bash, so the "anybody but Bush" crap is not going to play; and, they have not been able to come up with a good party platform for either of the previous two elections. 2008 will be primarily a contest between Republicans and conservatives; if the two groups can find common ground the Republicans will win big; only if they split will the Democrats have a small chance at the White house.

[Proud_texan]

Haha, good one! Way too early in the morning for me to even think that far ahead.

But can ya count on any pol staying bought any more? (hehe).

[Uncle Vlad]

Ari Fleischer said Clinton, now a Democratic senator representing New York, has no chance of actually becoming president.

I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If you were to shave Hillary's head, I would not be surprised if you found three sixes underneath.

[tahotdog]

Hope Fleischer's right; having Hillary Klintler elected president would start a civil war.

Hillary Klintler is personally responsible for at least two or three dozen women being sexually assaulted and/or raped. She knew early on that in Slick she had a guy who was massively photogenic, a brilliant speaker with a photographic memory and clearly presidential material IF she could keep the lid down on the little problems, and there has been a lid committee in place from then to now comprised of Terry Lenzner and one or two other PI organizations whose task has been to bribe and/or intimidate all those women into silence. It invariably worked, up to the Juanita Broaddrick accusation, because in every particular case it was just one woman with no real resources up against some sort of a thing with the full resources of one of the states or the United States behind it. Moreover, for something like that to have been in place all that time there is only one person on the planet who could have been in charge of it, i.e. Hillary Klintler.

I mean, You can watch the H. Klintler story occasionally on Friday and Saturday nights on the Grade B movie channel. The most common version shows some old crazy woman living in a cabin out in the swamp in the Louisiana bayous with two grown sons; the grown sons go out and rape and pillage at night and then the poor old crazy woman has to try to cover for them. Substitute Slick for the two sons and that's basically the H. Klintler story.

[FDNYRHEROES]

But what about JFingK? He was in Vietnam, you know....

[Coldwater Creek]

Mrs. Clinton has been bought since the first day that she met Bill. She is the Devil incarnate~~~~~~

[Caipirabob]

``She is the passion of the party,'' Fleischer said.

I would say this is true for both sides of the equation. There is as much an "Anti-HIllary sentiment" as much as there is any interest in seeing her defile the White House.

Hillary won't be President. She can try, but it will be the end of her political aspirations as the campaign will destroy any existing persception of her reputation as well as tear apart the nation.

[TomGuy]

Ari Fleischer said Clinton, now a Democratic senator representing New York, has no chance of actually becoming president.

In early 2000, the 'word' was that she had no chance of actually becoming a US Senator.


[In 1992, an insignificant governor from a bottom-level state managed to become President. He built a powerful political machine -- that HC has inherited. Write her off at your own peril. She is powerful and will be a formidable foe. If the GOP doesn't face that and counter her with their own powerhouse, all those Pubbies will be rushing to replace the Kerryites on the therapists' couches as they see President Hillary being sworm in.]

[sgtbono2002]

A lot of things can happen between now and 2008. Bush is losing a lot of Republicans with the immigration issue and others are watching the Republicans huff and puff about Judicial nominations without doing anything. In the meantime Hillary is fooling a few of the ignorant with her moderation movement and many women like her.

I wouldnt write her off so easily because we dont have an opponent for her yet. Would you vote for a Frist who failed to get the Judicial Nominees past, or a McCain who is a RINO? I think we can count out Condaleeza Rice, its a nice gesture , but it aint gonna happen. I dont see any stand out Republicans.

[TomGuy]

2008 is going to be a hard contest for the Democrats.

The same can be said for the GOP. Remember in the late 90's all the talk of 'Clinton fatigue'? By '08 the MSM talk will be 'Republican fatigue' after 8 years of Republican White House, and Republican House and Republican Senate (assuming they hold it for 06).

People are easily swayed and tire of mainstream quickly. The pendulum could very well swing away from the GOP next round, if they Dems put up a candidate who is right of radical. So far, none of the Pubbie names in circulation generate a ground-swell of excitement.

[Mad Mammoth]

Forgetting Senator Fat Ankles for the moment, I wouldn't mind seeing Ari run for elected office at some point, he strikes me as a good man, and there have been plenty of times I wished he was still in his White House position.

[ARCADIA]

So far, none of the Pubbie names in circulation generate a ground-swell of excitement.

Yup, the Democrats can't win this one; but, the Republicans can surely give it away. Right now I do not see any strong candidates on the Republican side. This is where the party's decision to all but abandon the primary process in 2004 is going to cost them big. We do not have anyone going into 2008 with much of a tested national track record. Gulliani is well to the left, Condi has never run for any elected office, Jeb is damaged goods (especially after the Shiavo debacle), Cheany is not running, and we have yet to find any evidence of leadership in either house of Congress. We still have a couple of years to try to catapult someone into the limelight, but, the clock keeps ticking as the party continues to dawdle.