Posted on 05/05/2005 8:07:02 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
Edited on 05/05/2005 9:20:49 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
I've nothing to say.
The abominable killing of this child and the others murdered in like/similar manner are assuaged in my mind and heart only in knowing that she and the other children are in Heaven.
Yes, indeed. And sloppy newswriting too. Introduce who "the Johnsons" are before telling us the tipster is related to the Johnsons.
I would say No. I think a death penalty case has to be prosecuted as a capital murder case. It's hard enough to get death penalty cases for 1st degree murder.
However, these murderers are usually "taken care of" by other inmates. Even the most hardened, despicable criminals detest child killers and those that kill children usually don't survive long in prison.
Justice?
What's saddest to me is that by tonight all of the "talking heads" will be offering explanations about these people being "depressed" or "overwhelmed" or they're victims of poverty or some other nonsense, and the left will try to convince all of us that the murderers are the one's that people should have sympathy for.
Uh, no! But to my knowledge only Muslims videotape their victims as they are beheading them alive!
Maybe that is the reason for the confusion.
(Wrong thread for this topic, OK?)
How can anyone be so evil as these two?
(And it must really, really suck to be one of the suspects now. Kid-killers are at the very bottom of the prison hierarchy, and often don't survive their incarcerations. I'm no fan of vigilantism, but I wouldn't shed too many tears if these knuckle-draggers had "unfortunate fatal accidents" while in custody.)
The Erica/Precious story reminds me of the most famous case of this kind -- The Boy in the Box, who will probably never be identified at this late date. (Scroll down the front page and click on the "Boy in the Bag" link at the bottom to see how a very similar case to both these ones just got solved.)
More info here:
http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
Please don't post articles from the this site as it is on the 'do not post' list.
Thanks!
This is a KC Missouri crime not KC Kansas crime.
I was living in Pittsburg KS at the time of the death of Stefanie Schmidt, that was the crime that brought back the death penalty to Kansas.
Donald Gideon took Stefanie, raped, sodomized, and then killed her.
Gideon had spent most of his worthless life in jail and was on parole for raping an 80 year old woman, he knew the worst penalty Kansas had was the 'hard 40', 40 years without parole, that is what he asked and that is what he got.
Soon after that Stefanie's Law was passed that brought back the death penalty to Kansas.
Just read the article. What a MESS of lives! "Precious" was a pretty name.
Oh my goodness, I'm so glad to hear they found out who she was! My heart is just as broken over this situation as before...so sad.
They weren't married at the time, but are now??? She MARRIED the guy after he killed her baby?
I'm sick.
Amiga, I'll ping the OK list as soon as I can...I'm away from the computer with the list on it right now...
If it were by firing squad, sign me up and I will do my civic duty to remove them from the air we breath.
There acts are evil and chilling. Beyond that my words would have to be removed from the thread. You get the idea I am sure.
I don't understand either 2J. As a mother this is just something I can't possibly fathom. I can't comprehend how any mother could do such a thing to their child nor can I understand how she could *be* with the man who did it. It's sickening.
Another thing I can not believe...
They interviewed the grandmother...she said "She gave me some pictures of her other kids, but not Erica...I wondered about that..."
And the dad too, who is apparently incarcerated...he's "been in and out of trouble and hadn't seen his kids lately" Well, I can understand when he's IN trouble, but what about when he's OUT?
How can a little child like that just disappear and NO ONE in the family "know"? What about the other children?? When they grew up, what would they remember? A sibling there, then not?
Did no one EVER get this little girl a birthday present or a Christmas present and follow up to see how she liked it??
There truly are monsters on this earth...
Yes, there are. I can't imagine it, nor can I hardly bear to know it.
Following from your line of thought 2J, it also really bothers me about those other children. How are they living? Are they safe? What have they been through and what have they seen? I know they aren't alone in being victims of the monsters of the world, but they are in the light now. I just can't help but wonder what they've seen and wish I could scoop them up and give them love.
Makes me remember that my little piddly family problems are not quite so much of an issue. Those kids should be so blessed as to have even my screwed up relatives!
She was a little girl (police believed her to be 3 or 4 years old) who was found murdered in a park in Kansas City, back in 2001. They found a decapitated body, and some time later, found her head at another location.
There was nothing to identify her, and the community sort of "adopted her," and paid for a funeral. Until now, nobody knew who she was. There were a few features done about her on America's Most Wanted.
The whole thing probably would have died, and the mystery never solved, if not for the tireless efforts of Alonzo Washington. I rarely agree with most of his activist stands, but here, he deserves the credit for keeping the investigations alive.
Mark
When little Erica was found I thought that the mother, whoever or wherever she was had to be involved and probably a boyfriend. I just can't figure out why it took so long for a relative or friend to tell the police.
Yes, her body was found but they couldn't identify her. The entire community was so shocked that they held a huge memorial for "Baby Doe" and her grave became a shrine to the child with no parents, no one who loved her enough to come forward. Tragic story!
Muskogee... that's too close to home.
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