[BCR #226]

FYI and spread it around to all the sites you guys go on... we need to get the word out.

Mike

[Kretek]

SAAMI offered to take members of the Legislature, including Sen. Dunn, and the Attorney General's office, on a tour of an ammunition manufacturing plant. Regrettably, neither Sen. Dunn, nor the Attorney General's office availed themselves of this opportunity to learn first-hand why this proposal is infeasible.

In other words, "Don't confuse Sen. Dunn or the AG with the facts; they've got their minds made up."

The cost of ammunition would increase from pennies now to several dollars per cartridge. It is sheer, uninformed fantasy to suggest that costs would only increase by half a cent.

That is, of course, the unspoken but true aim of that serialisation requirment; if they can't ban ammunition de jure, they'll make it so expensive as to have a de facto ban.

[BCR #226]

Ping...

[EagleUSA]

I heard about this ridiculous leftist scheme to put more pressure on gun owners. What these power-and-control freaks will come up with next. They are so blinded by their objective of disarming free Americans, they have no clue about the how,why,cost,impact, etc.

SOCIALIST MORONS!!!

[G.Mason]

Serialize this!

[Arkie2]

I've been reading about this bill. What are it's chances of passage?

[muir_redwoods]

It would cost nothing to file off the number if I was going to use the round in a killing. Sheeesh!

[joesnuffy]

Right...and everyone who makes their own bullets is going to have to laser engrave them..

Not to mention they deform upon impact...and every bullet has to have its own serial number?

How many zillions of bullets will be made this month?...
and what about foreign bullets...we will refuse to allow anyone to import them..

This is simply more back door gun grabbing by the commies
who hate America and want to disarm honest citizens
in order that there will be no one to resist criminals
of either type..(sanctioned and unsanctioned)

imo

[556x45]

Instead manufacturers would have no alternative but to abandon the California market.

I suspect this is exactly what the AG is hoping for. The state, of course, would be exempt from the law so police and the privileged would be uneffected. Even if the gun lobby does sue the state over this the state could keep it in court for years. There's NO up side to this situation even for those who would want to outlaw guns. They'll be caught in the societal degradation thats certain to follow.

[AZ_Cowboy]

It looks as if I ought to buy a reloading kit early for Father's Day, huh.

Consider the word spread.

[45Auto]

"This bill, when coupled with the certain abandonment of the California market place by ammunition manufacturers, becomes a de facto ammunition ban and confiscation. Consumers may possess non-serialized ammunition in their home, but the moment they walk outside their house to drive to their local shooting range for an afternoon of target shooting they become a criminal. The only realistic option for consumers is to turn over to local enforcement any non-serialized ammunition in their possession. We agree with the Attorney General's office that hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition are purchased each year by consumers in California. A conservative estimate would be that law enforcement would confiscate at least 500 million rounds of non-serialized ammunition from law-abiding Californians, but not a single cartridge from a criminal."

[Travis McGee]

BANG!

[yarddog]

Well I am glad I don't live in California. Unfortunately, if it passes there, it will probably spread.

[Ancesthntr]

When I lived in NJ under Florio's "assault weapon" ban, I proudly purchased 20- and 30-round mags at PA gun shows and brought them back home. If I lived in CA, I'd refuse to turn in any unregistered bullets (or loaded ammo containing such bullets), and I'd make it a point to go outside of the state to buy more of them.

Gunowners should have massive protests, with each one bringing a 50-round box of ammo with them. F'em - if they want to enforce the law, let them throw a million people in jail.

Fortunately, I live in TX now. Somehow or other, I just don't see anything gun-related being banned here, not with 30 million + guns in the state. But having lived in an oppressive socialist dictatorship once (the PRNJ), I have great sympathy for gunowners in CA.

[Badray]

Bump

[G Larry]

These clowns will tell ANY LIE to stop the availability of handguns or the ammo.

Perhaps we should sue because of the unfair impact on the poor's ability to defend themselves.

Then we could have a State subsidised ammo program, for the underpriviliged!

[paul51]

Facts don't matter to the grabbers and those ignorant enough to listen to what they say

[Myrddin]

Exactly as I surmised. A forced confiscation of unserialized ammo and abandonment of the market because it isn't cost effective to manufacture. Disarmament without a shot...unless Californians grow some serious cajones.

[Rakkasan1]

[gieriscm]

The bill does not exempt law enforcement from its requirements. Therefore, state and local law enforcement will not be able to purchase non-serialized ammunition from manufacturers.

I believe that the bill was amended to exempt law-enforcement agencies. Personally, I think that the ammunition manufacturers should simply refuse to do business with any of them if this passes.

Hey, it worked in Maine - the AW bill was voted down after Bushmaster told the legiscritters that it would cut off LE if it could no longer sell its products in state. This is no different.

[Hank Rearden]

The politicians don't have to worry about being impacted by this bill.

Because when the sh$% comes down (and I'm thinking more and more that it eventually will), the populace will opt for the much-more-fun activity of hanging the bastards from lampposts.

As a deterrant to other tyrants, ya see.