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"He was given a federally funded rental assistance voucher to pay for an apartment, but in a city where more than half of 42,000 vacant rental housing units don't meet federal standards, finding an apartment was nearly impossible. In contrast to the 4,181 public housing units torn down since the mid-1990s, only 860 new units have been built. In the process, 985 efficiencies and one-bedroom apartments were lost. Meanwhile, rents are rising as higher-income people move into available rental housing, and landlords have less incentive to accept assistance vouchers. Some 14,000 city residents are on a waiting list for vouchers, while 18,000 await public housing. "

I don't know about where you live, but in Maryland, section 8 housing has devastated sections of our suburbs. Once nice neighborhoods with working poor and good schools now have drugs businesses, crime, and businesses fleeing along with the middle class. This rag, the Baltimore Sun, blames the middle class/whites for the problems in those areas.

In 1995 the ACLU sued Baltimore City and HUD (who lost) in federal courts for having built housing projects where the poor were concentrated. In a settlement Baltimore City built 30 houses for 30 families for 7 million dollars in other areas of the city. Then they ran out of money. How was it discrimination to build free public housing?? What if we just provided no free housing?

1 posted on 05/06/2005 5:49:32 AM PDT by marylandrepub1
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Dang, I left my violin at home.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 5:51:55 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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This will sound bad, but I find it hard to pity some people. To many of the people in this country that have a lousy lot in life have such because they made bad, stupid chooses they knew were bad and stupid. Yes there are people who have made the right decisions and still fall on hard times, but these usually will get up again. And of course I pity the children of these people.

Good example I know a man who had a good job paid over $45000 a year. He kept getting drunk and not showing and got fired. He now had another job but keeps drinking. His phone was turned off but he still has money for beer. Good Lord forgive me, but I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who screws up their life and knew better.


4 posted on 05/06/2005 5:56:06 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, who's bringing the chips?)
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Section 8 has done the same to south Kansas City. One thing that I don't see in this article is that maybe, just maybe EUSTACE "SHANE" Thornton's problems here caused by his drug and alcohol use, which as I see it make him, NOT MY PROBLEM. At the risk of sounding like a bad person, I am tired of paying for other people's bad decisions. Throw bums like this out on the street, and give the available units to those who truly need and deserve our help.
5 posted on 05/06/2005 5:58:01 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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"Some 14,000 city residents are on a waiting list for vouchers, while 18,000 await public housing. "

That many parasites, huh?
What percentage of the population is that?
Are they breeding?

6 posted on 05/06/2005 5:59:06 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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Ah, our old friends The Homeless. Always a good photo op and a tearjerker story when one wants to show how callous the Republicans are toward the weak and downtrodden. Just wait a week and, if this story gets any play, suddenly homelessness will blossom into a full-fledged epidemic, a devastating social plague that has exploded since Bush took office.


8 posted on 05/06/2005 6:09:00 AM PDT by IronJack
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What if we just provided no free housing?

That works for me.

More than half of the nation's 3.5 million homeless are single people, mostly men like Mr. Thornton [mentally ill and an alcoholic].

No amount of "affordable housing" can help if the mentally ill aren't treated and the addicts don't get clean.

But more and more working poor families are ending up on the streets as well, unable to keep up with rising rents, or broke from paying huge medical expenses because they lack health insurance.

As for the "working poor", how about families sharing a house with a roommate[s]? It may not be ideal, but it beats being on the streets or having me subsidize you.

For those with large medical bills, declare bankruptcy and start over.

Ending homelessness will be a large and difficult undertaking,

It'll be an impossibility as long as the government's involved in it.

10 posted on 05/06/2005 6:12:10 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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After years of struggling with alcoholism and mental illness....

Hey, look at me--I made it to the third sentence!

13 posted on 05/06/2005 6:29:09 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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It can make the difference between life and death<<<

No. The decision to become a worthless drunk - or not, can make a difference.

I resent having to pay for the bad decisions of the dredges of society. There are those of us who are successful in life not because of good luck - but hard work. I've been as bad or worse off than many of the people whose sob stories I've seen in print, I worked hard and rose above it all. I know it can be done, therefore I have NO SYMPATHY.
14 posted on 05/06/2005 6:38:33 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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OH FOR THE LOVE OF..!

Colorful and poetic, indeed. Why, then, did the paper not offer him a job? I don't see THAT in the article anywhere.


16 posted on 05/06/2005 6:53:05 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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The federal government has increased funding for homeless programs while slashing public and affordable housing programs.

It's not the job of government to fund these types of programs. It is up to me, and you and the author of this piece to help those in need.

Cut these programs out, and give back our money so we can help those in need more efficiently and effectively.

17 posted on 05/06/2005 7:07:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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A great tagline that I saw this morning: "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


18 posted on 05/06/2005 10:08:36 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (What this country needs is dirtier hands and cleaner minds.)
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Reminds me of the situation a friend of mine is in. His once beautiful wife began drinking in her mid to late 30's. I mean drinking to the point of passing out nearly every night for no reason he can understand. He's done everything he could think of to try to help her. He's searched for the alcohol and threw it out, he's taken her to rehab nearly a dozen times. Insurance won't pay for it so he's out about $10,000-12,000 each time he takes her. She has yet to complete one program. She gets angry and walks out. The staff can't make her stay so she gets out and starts drinking again.

He stayed and raised the children in spite of the fact that she took money from his business, she's embezzeled funds from her employers and pawned anything of value from the home including stealing her children's things. He even woke one night recently to find her pointing a pistol at him, but was too drunk to remember to take the safety off. People in their neighborhood have found her passed out on the streets.

The last child left home last year. He is in the process of packing his things up and he plans to leave. He will not divorce her because he said that he made a vow and will honor that vow. He will leave her in their home, pay the rent, utilities and provide for groceries to be delivered to her. He plans to live in the back of his business. He said that there is simply nothing he can do for her until she realizes she has a problem. She doesn't believe she has a problem with alcohol.

Same thing with these folks. Until they realize they have a problem and they want to do something about it, there's nothing anyone can do to really help them.


20 posted on 05/06/2005 1:07:26 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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The federal government has increased funding for homeless programs while slashing public and affordable housing programs.

So, have they increased it or slashed it? Kind of confusing here.

21 posted on 05/06/2005 1:10:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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We should have affordable housing - with some conditions. No drugs, No alcohol, the tenant must work and keep his place clean. He/she can not lay up and make babies. No loud parties, No loud music, No profanity - these are the conditions - you don't like it or can't comply - die on the street.


22 posted on 05/06/2005 1:19:58 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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freedom means, in part, the freedom to fail.
the freedom to fail includes the freedom to fail totally and take the full set of lumps.
I am not at all convinced that the government can alter the tail end of the equation without altering the head.
In other words, I don't think the government can sheild the indolent, the unwise, and the unlucky from consequences without simultaneously infringing upon the totality of freedom for us all.
Live Free or Die.


24 posted on 05/06/2005 3:05:15 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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homelessness only occurs during republican presidential administrations.

(/s)


i lived and worked in wa wa d.c. during the reagan administration. almost daily there were photos and articles on the homeless in downtown d.c.

later i moved to los angeles. same problem, all reagan's fault.

and then bush 41 became president and the problem intensified in the los angeles times.

martin sheen came down from the mountains above malibu to minister to the homeless on the streets of santa monica.

years later the people in santa monica tired of sheen and the homeless and told them both to take a hike.


28 posted on 05/06/2005 7:20:12 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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