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Myth; Illegal Immigrant support groups say Real ID would make roads less safe, Fact; Without real ID, there will be more uncontrolled Illegal Immigrants and more people on the road, as a result of states giving out license to all of the third world, therefore it will be more dangerous to drive, more congestion, more pollution and more gas consumption…

Myth Illegal Immigrant support groups say Real ID would erode national security, not improve it. Fact; Taken to the limit if the US has no accountable ID system or relies on foreign ID systems ripe with forgery and corruption and the anarchy that accompanies , this will and has eroded national security, as documented by the 9-11 commission report.

Myth; Real ID would make millions of Illegal Immigrants who live in our nation hide even more. Fact; Real ID act would allow law enforcement to identify the legal citizens from the illegal citizens better, so that picking out an illegal immigrant would be easier and make them accountable if stopped and would make it so they would be unable to hide anymore.

Myth State officials said they worry that the act would shift the burden and costs of immigration enforcement from the federal government to the states. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the legislation would cost states $100 million over five years to implement Fact, the states would save money on the long run by to not catering to illegal immigrants, it is estimated that California alone spends 10 billion a year in services which could be eliminated if there were a means to identity only those legal residence who were eligible for state services.

1 posted on 05/07/2005 9:31:55 AM PDT by seastay
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Latino and immigrant support groups are mobilizing against the proposed Real ID Act, a federal law that would prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

Translation: Democrats are mobilizing against the proposed Real ID Act, a federal law that would prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

2 posted on 05/07/2005 9:33:44 AM PDT by hflynn
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3 posted on 05/07/2005 9:34:49 AM PDT by gubamyster
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What does Alberto Gonzales have to say about REAL ID?

Being as he and President Bush received accolades from La Raza for having the right heritage when he was appointed AG, will he be able to separate his constitutional duties from his personal beliefs?

Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)


4 posted on 05/07/2005 9:35:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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If they are going to have a rally to protest I think it would be a perfect opportunity for LA MIGRA to show up with transportation ready. One way ticket to Mexico.


5 posted on 05/07/2005 9:39:29 AM PDT by Sterco
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"Casa de Maryland, the National Council of La Raza and other groups hope to draw as many as 5,000 immigrants to a protest rally tomorrow afternoon at Richard Montgomery High School in Rockville."

I wonder if ICE will be attending this shindig.
Naah. They probably dont have enough folks to do catch and release.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 9:41:32 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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Latino

Is it latino or hispanic? Come on folks, decide on a name for your victim group.

7 posted on 05/07/2005 9:44:34 AM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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I am not exactly a big fan of any type of national ID. That said, if the "immigrants" are worried they will be caught, why not just come into the country legally instead?

ohh yeah, that would be to hard on the poor dears /sarcasm....


8 posted on 05/07/2005 9:45:08 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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"Immigrant support groups say Real ID would make roads less safe and could erode national security, not improve it."




Puhleeze ! Like they are really concerned about security. It's all about THEM and their agenda.


9 posted on 05/07/2005 9:46:30 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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What part of ILLEGAL is it that these people don't understand?

ILLEGAL adj. Contrary to the law; not legal. See synonyms under CRIMINAL.

Stand up for OUR country. I only hope the Blacks in the USA understand how Hispanic ( Mexican political domination will effect them )Ever travel in Mexico--not to integrated, using the United States colloquial definition of integrated.

11 posted on 05/07/2005 9:49:52 AM PDT by BIGZ
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Immigrant support groups say Real ID [...] could erode national security, not improve it.

"It will make millions of people that live in our nation hide even more," said Gustavo Torres, executive director of Casa de Maryland, a Latino advocacy group. "[...] now they are going to be even more scared to participate in our society, to cooperate with police on crime issues."

So Gustavo admits that many illegals have valuable information about threats to national security (if they're not terrorists themselves). Interesting.

14 posted on 05/07/2005 10:17:15 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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"They are going to keep driving, keep working, but now they are going to be even more scared to participate in our society, to cooperate with police on crime issues."

Maybe I'm paranoid, but this sure does sound like a thinly veiled threat.

20 posted on 05/07/2005 10:48:48 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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Latino and immigrant support groups are mobilizing against the proposed Real ID Act, a federal law that would prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

Lie. States could issue licenses to illegals, as long as they're not for use as identification, just as authorization to drive. In California, Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D, Mexico City) wants to issue specially-marked driver's licenses to illegals, and has introduced legislation to do so. (He also wants to exempt illegals from the state's vehicle impoundment laws for unlicensed driving, which gives you an idea of how in the tank this guy is for illegals).

21 posted on 05/07/2005 10:56:12 AM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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"The cost of verifying these documents alone is incredible," Calvo said. "Then you have training, security standards, equipment, physical upgrades to the licenses, biometrics. This stuff doesn't come free."

I am willing to pay my fair share plus some!

23 posted on 05/07/2005 11:27:45 AM PDT by JIM O
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"...said Gustavo Torres, executive director of Casa de Maryland, a Latino advocacy group. "They are going to keep driving, keep working, but now they are going to be even more scared to participate in our society, to cooperate with police on crime issues."

American lawbreakers find themselves in exactly the same situation.

34 posted on 05/07/2005 12:08:59 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: seastay
The license is the key to US society. They know this.
38 posted on 04/12/2006 6:21:33 AM PDT by Red6
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