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Payments to Help Hospitals Care for Illegal Immigrants
NY Times ^ | May 10, 2005 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 05/09/2005 8:14:04 PM PDT by holymoly

WASHINGTON, May 9 - The Bush administration announced on Monday that it would start paying hospitals and doctors for providing emergency care to illegal immigrants.

The money, totaling $1 billion, will be available for services provided from Tuesday through September 2008. Congress provided the money as part of the 2003 law that expanded Medicare to cover prescription drugs, but the new payments have nothing to do with the Medicare program.

Members of Congress from border states, like Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, had sought the money. They said the treatment of illegal immigrants imposed a huge financial burden on many hospitals, which are required to provide emergency care to patients who need it, regardless of their immigration status or ability to pay.

Under the new program, hospitals are supposed to ask patients for certain documents to substantiate claims for payment. But Dr. Mark B. McClellan, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said a hospital should not directly ask a patient "if he or she is an undocumented alien."

Instead, Dr. McClellan said, hospitals can try to establish a patient's status by analyzing the answers to "indirect questions": Is the person eligible for Medicaid? (If so, payment is generally not available under the new program.) Has the person reported a foreign place of birth? Does the person have a border-crossing card like those issued to Mexican citizens? Does the person have a foreign passport, a foreign driver's license or a foreign identification card?

The Bush administration abandoned a proposal that would have required many hospitals to ask patients if they were United States citizens or legal immigrants.

"In no circumstances are hospitals required to ask people about their citizenship status," Dr. McClellan said on Monday.

Hospital executives and immigrant rights groups had said such questions would deter illegal immigrants from seeking hospital care and could lead to serious public health problems by increasing the spread of communicable diseases.

Cecilia Muñoz, a vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Latino civil rights group, said the new requirements were an improvement over the original proposal but would still discourage some immigrants from seeking treatment.

"Hospitals will have to ask confusing, highly technical questions about immigration documents," Ms. Muñoz said. "That will create a perception in the Latino community that you have to show your papers in order to get emergency care. That's a misperception, but it may be enough to deter some people from seeking care."

The new program is run by the Department of Health and Human Services. Dr. McClellan said the department would not provide information about illegal immigrants to law enforcement officials for use in "routine civil immigration proceedings." But in rare cases, he said, the information may be used in criminal investigations.

The largest allocations this fiscal year are going to California, which will receive $70.8 million; Texas, $46 million; Arizona, $45 million; New York, $12.3 million; Illinois, $10.3 million; Florida, $8.7 million; and New Mexico, $5.1 million.

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, said she was pleased that the money was being made available, even as she called for new efforts to "secure our borders."

Before tapping the new program, hospitals and doctors must seek payment from other sources, like Medicaid and private insurers.

The Bush administration emphasized that hospitals "should not single out individuals who look or sound foreign for closer scrutiny."

"Hospital and other provider personnel may not selectively screen individuals regarding their eligibility status on the basis of race, color or national origin," the guidelines say.

Jan Emerson, a spokeswoman for the California Hospital Association, said California hospitals provided $500 million a year in emergency care for illegal immigrants, seven times the amount of the federal grant. But Ms. Emerson welcomed the new assistance, saying: "This is a highly symbolic first step. The federal government is finally acknowledging that it has a responsibility to pay for health care provided to illegal immigrants."

Under the guidelines, hospitals are expected to make photocopies of documents indicating a patient's immigration status. They will not ordinarily have to submit such documents to the government, but must keep them for review by federal auditors.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderjumpers; freeloaders; freeride; healthcare; hospital; illegal; illegalaliens; immigrant; medical
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The Bush administration announced on Monday that it would start paying hospitals and doctors for providing emergency care to illegal immigrants.

Rather than making U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for these freeloaders, why not send the bill to Vincente Fox?
Vincente Fox

1 posted on 05/09/2005 8:14:09 PM PDT by holymoly
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To: holymoly
But Dr. Mark B. McClellan, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said a hospital should not directly ask a patient "if he or she is an undocumented alien."

Wouldn't want to hurt someone's feewings.

2 posted on 05/09/2005 8:16:14 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: holymoly

Speechless.

If the vitriol within were let out, I'd be banned...again.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 8:17:00 PM PDT by msf92497 (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: holymoly

Oh,terrific.This will make me feel much better during tax season next year.

Good to know I'm helping others. (sarcasm off)


4 posted on 05/09/2005 8:20:31 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: holymoly

WRONG!

We American taxpayers "will start paying hospitals for illegals' medical bills!"

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!


5 posted on 05/09/2005 8:24:44 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: holymoly

My hope is that once the amount that hospitals want is seen to dwarf the allotted $1 Billion, there can then be pressure to deny services to those who are illegal.


6 posted on 05/09/2005 8:24:51 PM PDT by ikka
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To: holymoly

Emergency room bills can be shocking. Perhaps actual citizens can get a financial break, too? Oops. I just woke up from my dream.


7 posted on 05/09/2005 8:25:02 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: holymoly
All this while the American citizen/taxpayer gets squat. Just try to walk into an ER and get care before they make you fill out paperwork for the billing. It won't happen.

Thank God for the Republican majority. (I really don't think the /sarcasm tag is needed)

8 posted on 05/09/2005 8:26:55 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: msf92497

Download one of Britney Spears' song and you can go to jail for 3 years - but the Feds let illegal immigrants get away with anything.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 8:28:24 PM PDT by soccer_linux_mozilla (I believe in the potential of Open Source software: Linux, Mozilla, Firefox, OpenOffice,etc)
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To: holymoly
The Bush administration abandoned a proposal that would have required many hospitals to ask patients if they were United States citizens or legal immigrants.

"In no circumstances are hospitals required to ask people about their citizenship status," Dr. McClellan said on Monday.

Not to long ago I had to go to the ER to get a nasty cut on my thumb stitched up. I had to provide quite a bit of information, including SS#, employment information, insurance information. The bill for the stich-up job and bandages was $850. If I'd known, all I would have had to say is, "My name is Jose--I no have the moneeee. You send the bill to de Bush, he pay you."

10 posted on 05/09/2005 8:29:29 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
All this while the American citizen/taxpayer gets squat.

Oh, you get something. You get the "Real ID" act.

You get to "prove" you are a citizen, before you can get your federally-approved drivers' license, which will be required to open a bank account, collect social security, etc., etc.

11 posted on 05/09/2005 8:30:14 PM PDT by holymoly ("Got any of that beer that has candy floating in it? You know, Skittlebrau?" - Homer Simpson)
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To: kellynla
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Sickening, how do you keep from going ballistic. Our tax bill is already so freaking outrageous, and its has happened slowly over time as not to alarm anyone, well the hell with that, Im alarmed and ready for action. At some point a revolt will IMO be necessary, peaceful of course.

12 posted on 05/09/2005 8:32:32 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: holymoly

Keep in mind that every time you link to the NYSlimes website, hundreds here will click on the link and NYSlimes will make a lot of money off of banners displayed on their website

They made $300 million in profits last year, why help them make even more?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nyt


13 posted on 05/09/2005 8:34:23 PM PDT by soccer_linux_mozilla (I believe in the potential of Open Source software: Linux, Mozilla, Firefox, OpenOffice,etc)
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To: ikka
My hope is that once the amount that hospitals want is seen to dwarf the allotted $1 Billion, there can then be pressure to deny services to those who are illegal.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

14 posted on 05/09/2005 8:34:48 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: ikka

One billion is right about 1 tenth of the annual cost. Just another scam by Bush.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 8:36:44 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Yer tryin' to push my buttons, aren't you. It's a dangerous tactic - remember the character "Mr Furious" in the movie Mystery Men. Well, he's nothing compared to how this illegal alien BS makes me.

It's a felony to be here illegally, but those criminals have more rights than I do, and no-one will do a damn thing about it. Just sitting and watching/reporting the criminals invade our country makes a person a vigilante, a bigot, a hate-monger.

I'm just sitting back and waiting for the tipping point to be crossed. The backlash against the politicians and the criminals will be spectacular.


16 posted on 05/09/2005 8:36:50 PM PDT by msf92497 (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: holymoly
Bush knows he can't run for election again. The man is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

It's not the government paying the bills for illegals - It's US! It takes away from our family. It takes away from our pursuit of happiness. It makes us their slaves.

17 posted on 05/09/2005 8:36:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: ikka

Keep hoping..


18 posted on 05/09/2005 8:37:38 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: kellynla
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Yep. The government uses us as slaves.

19 posted on 05/09/2005 8:37:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: msf92497

Check out http://www.minutemanproject.com/


20 posted on 05/09/2005 8:38:52 PM PDT by soccer_linux_mozilla (I believe in the potential of Open Source software: Linux, Mozilla, Firefox, OpenOffice,etc)
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