[rhombus]

Nothing against Southerners, I lived in the South for 15 years and I like Southerners. They just don't make good leaders.

I guess you are not a big fan of Bush. I'd have also include Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Boone, Crockett, Lee and if you ever get to meet him, I'll hope you can say that to Patton's face.

[Guillermo]

I don't consider Texas the South.

The South is: SC, North FL, GA, AL, MS, (maybe LA and AR), TN, NC and KY.

IE, states with SEC schools.

And, let me clarify...Southerners of the past couple of generations do not make good leaders.

[El Gato]

I'll hope you can say that to Patton's face

Patton was from California. A very different California than the one now squating on the west coast.