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[San Francisco] The city isn't Disneyland -- that's just goofy
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/12/5 | John King

Posted on 05/12/2005 10:50:22 AM PDT by SmithL

News flash: Cities aren't what they used to be.

Follow-up question: What is?

This rather obvious query popped into my head Sunday after reading Joel Kotkin's sniffish dismissal of San Francisco as an "ephemeral city," one that "differs dramatically from traditional urban centers." Instead of smokestacks and stevedores we have tapas and trust-fund liberals.

He's absolutely right, and he totally misses the point. If San Francisco is a far cry from the boisterous Big Cities of yore, that's because Big Cities continue to evolve. The successful ones still draw strength from immigration and a central address, but they're no longer the engines driving the region around them. They're a lifestyle choice.

Simplistic? Yes. But no more simplistic than parachuting pundits who judge the present by their definition of How Things Ought to Be -- ignoring the fact that today's actions and trends are shaped by decades of social and economic history.

For instance.

As Kotkin surveys our "overpriced urban amusement park," he bemoans the loss of "small factories, dockworkers and dives specializing in carved turkey and roast beef," and frets that the new ephemerality "threatens the existence of the middle class urban family."

I echo his regret with regards to all that has passed; the Financial District hofbrau my dad would take me to in the 1970s is long gone. What's absurd is the notion that these shifts are the result of current leftish politics, or somehow unique to San Francisco.

Take the loss of dockworkers: Burly laborers weren't chased from the waterfront by the folks running that silly caviar bar at the Ferry Building; they're the victims of the shipping industry's shift from loose cargo to sealed containers in the 1960s.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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No Disneyland is supposed to be the happiest place on earth, and San Francisco is, well something else.
1 posted on 05/12/2005 10:50:24 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The funny thing - you could vacation at Disney Land all year long for nearly what it would cost to live in S.F. for the same year...


2 posted on 05/12/2005 10:53:44 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: SmithL

I think both are pretty gay places.


3 posted on 05/12/2005 10:53:50 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: SmithL

"If San Francisco is a far cry from the boisterous Big Cities of yore, that's because Big Cities continue to evolve. The successful ones still draw strength from immigration and a central address, but they're no longer the engines driving the region around them. They're a lifestyle choice."

Hmm, someone should tell the people of Prague. It's only a 1,000 year old city.


4 posted on 05/12/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: SmithL

Paul Kantner of The Jefferson Airplane:

"San Francisco is 49 square miles surrounded by reality."

I rest my case.


5 posted on 05/12/2005 10:56:40 AM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: SmithL
Instead of smokestacks and stevedores we have tapas and trust-fund liberals...and bath houses with flaming gays, lots of homos!... and bums, lots and lots of bums!
6 posted on 05/12/2005 11:06:45 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: SmithL

Actually, SF is a mere tectonic wiggle away from being a National Park.


7 posted on 05/12/2005 11:13:58 AM PDT by DamascusRoad (Bay Area National Geological Preserve)
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Instead of smokestacks and stevedores we have tapas and trust-fund liberals...and bath houses with flaming gays, lots of homos!... and bums, lots and lots of bums!

...and gangbangers, and crack whores, and Asian massage parlors, and junkies, and potheads, and psychos, and thugs, and feces, and urine, and really good burritos.

8 posted on 05/12/2005 12:22:23 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: SmithL
When this guy says cities are a lifestyle choice, he's hitting close to home. I bet the day will come when cities are overwhelmingly populated by the poor.

The real working middle class has been abandoning them for years and the Internet has created a whole way of working that doesn't rely on bricks and mortar. The trust fund babies will eventually notice that they live in a sea of uneducated, underachieving, culturally closed folks and move some place with a better view.
9 posted on 05/12/2005 12:22:36 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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I bet the day will come when cities are overwhelmingly populated by the poor.

That's not what's happening here in Frisco. The middle class is shrinking, but so is the lower class. This town is increasingly populated by the rich!

10 posted on 05/12/2005 12:25:37 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: SmithL
From the article: "...they're [dockworkers] the victims of the shipping industry's shift from loose cargo to sealed containers in the 1960s."

San Francisco is a union town. The lefties there would rather die than adapt. A friend of mine suffered extortion of $10k to hire a union electrical contractor before the inspector would sign off on the work. Nothing changed except the union label. He will no longer bid on San Francisco contracts, so the only contractors left who will are those who are union controlled.

11 posted on 05/12/2005 12:40:29 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: rogue yam
"That's not what's happening here in Frisco. The middle class is shrinking, but so is the lower class. This town is increasingly populated by the rich!"

I think it's happening in other places, though. Regular middle class people don't want to live with a lot of crime and begging so they move to the burbs. Working class people don't like it much either and they move to the older burbs. Nobody left but the rich and the poor and the rich will eventually tire of it.
12 posted on 05/12/2005 1:38:00 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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