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Do we owe it all to the hippies?
C-Net News.com ^ | 5/13/2005 | Charles Cooper

Posted on 05/13/2005 7:35:08 AM PDT by Mike Bates

The '60s represent many things to many people, but did that same era of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll also inspire the revolution in personal computing?

That remains an unconventional reading of contemporary history. You could just as easily argue that heavy investment in military research was the moving force. Same goes for pro-market tax policies. But a generation of pot smokers and draft dodgers?

Needless to say, it has the makings of a feisty barroom debate. Still, don't dismiss the argument out of hand. In fact, Whole Earth Catalog founder Stewart Brand made a convincing try a decade ago.

In an essay he wrote for Time magazine in 1995, Brand maintained that the communal and libertarian outlook espoused during the hippie era spawned the seeds that later bore fruit in the form of the modern cyberrevolution. "At the time, it all seemed dangerously anarchic (and still does to many), but the counterculture's scorn for centralized authority provided the philosophical foundations of not only the leaderless Internet but also the entire personal-computer revolution."

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So now we're "a generation of pot smokers and draft dodgers?" The whole generation? Aargh!

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

1 posted on 05/13/2005 7:35:08 AM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates
did that same era of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll also inspire the revolution in personal computing?

I do know drug use is not conducive to software development unless it's caffeine.

2 posted on 05/13/2005 7:37:26 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Mike Bates
'sbeen a while since I picked up the Whole Earth Catalog.
3 posted on 05/13/2005 7:37:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Mike Bates

The maggot-infested dope smoking hippies had nothing to do with the cyber-revolution. That was the engineers with flat-top crew cuts, pocket protectors, and slide rules.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 7:39:35 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Mike Bates

Hippies Suck!

5 posted on 05/13/2005 7:40:34 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: advance_copy
Somebody invented something while hippies were doing bong hits, collecting unemployment and sleeping in all day.

Naturally, hippies deserve the credit for not cluttering up productive workplaces with their stupid catch phrases, coughing fits, yellow teeth, and the ass smell that radiates from their hair.

6 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:03 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: advance_copy
The maggot-infested dope smoking hippies had nothing to do with the cyber-revolution. That was the engineers with flat-top crew cuts, pocket protectors, and slide rules.

Counter-examples include Woz, Paul Allen, anyone at Berkeley. :)

7 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:24 AM PDT by cryptical
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To: Mike Bates

PUH LEEEEZE!

The principles that make the free-wheeling internet THE place for a so very American discourse ARE THE PRINCIPLES THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UPON. Individual liberty and responsibility, little to no government infringement, and a LMTFA (leave me alone) attitude. These concepts, among others, and to lesser or greater degree, have been the common thread throughout the great American experience.

I daresay, all else being equal, Paine, Henry, Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, Adams, et al, would have used an internet to very good purpose had it been available at the time.....In addition to citizen soldiers in defense of liberty.

Up liberty!

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8 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:46 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Drat. That reminds me that my own subscription just ran out.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 7:47:20 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

The space program and Cold War had more to do with the rise of computing than those worthless smelly hippies.


10 posted on 05/13/2005 7:50:08 AM PDT by boofus
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To: cryptical

"Counter-examples include Woz, Paul Allen, anyone at Berkeley. :)"

Geeks have always seemed to fall into two categories. "scruffies" (that Berkely crowd) and "neats" (the pocket protector/crewcut/sliderule........mmmmmmmmmm sliderule group)

I think maybe Clifford Stole (sp) may have been a bridge/hybrid type.

Cheers,
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11 posted on 05/13/2005 7:53:14 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: Mike Bates

this article is bunk from the get-go because "communal" and "libertarian" are antonyms.

...idiots


12 posted on 05/13/2005 7:55:50 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Semper Paratus

It's a laughable argument that the author makes. There *was* a very strong libertarian movement among the 60's generation that had little to do with the potheads and communists from Woodstock.


14 posted on 05/13/2005 8:00:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: t_skoz
You're not a hippy just because you used a bong.

You're a hippy when you always wait for somebody else to fill it.

15 posted on 05/13/2005 8:03:42 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: cryptical
Counter-examples include Woz, Paul Allen, anyone at Berkeley. :)

Woziak and Allen didn't really get started until the seventies. Despite their current liberal politics I don't think they were ever "hippies", more like computer geeks. All those pictures from the sixties of hippies at Berkeley protesting and getting their heads cracked by the cops when Reagan got sick of them? Well, none of them were in the engineering school.
16 posted on 05/13/2005 8:05:19 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: advance_copy

D'oh: Woziak=Wozniak


17 posted on 05/13/2005 8:06:42 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: dead

nobody likes a freeloader!

;-)


18 posted on 05/13/2005 8:09:23 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Mike Bates

Ive always been disgusted that the media when talking about the sixties invariably dwells upon hippies, counter-culture and dopers swimming in mud at "woodstock".

How many people worked on Apollo? How many people showed up to watch Apollo 11 launch? How many people watched the moon landing on TV?

This is probably the greatest story of the sixties. It may be the biggest story remembered in 1000 years from our times. But the media will brush over it with a quick mention (if at all) and forever focus losers who dragged society down to their level.


19 posted on 05/13/2005 8:09:38 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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20 posted on 05/13/2005 8:09:39 AM PDT by dennisw ("But Mona Lisa must have had the highway blues, you can tell by the way she smiles)
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