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Feinstein targets agricultural workers (Asa chimes in)
Orange County Register ^ | May 18, 2005 | DENA BUNIS, OC Register

Posted on 05/18/2005 7:12:59 AM PDT by LNewman

Feinstein targets agricultural workers. Senator plans to introduce an industry-specific bill, rather than a sweeping measure on immigration.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday that she ... plans to introduce her own measure to provide a path toward legalization only for longtime undocumented agriculture workers.

Feinstein, D-Calif., said any new guest-worker program – even one requiring employees to eventually return to their home country – would be a "magnet for illegal immigration" and something she could not support.

SNIP

Under Feinstein's idea, which hasn't yet been finalized, longtime undocumented agricultural workers would get a "blue card," allowing them to continue to work in agriculture. After a period of years of continued agricultural work, they would be entitled to trade in their blue card for a "green card."

Feinstein's comments came in an interview after the immigration and terrorism subcommittees held a hearing Tuesday afternoon on the border-security implications of immigration policy.

SNIP

At the hearing, Asa Hutchinson, a former undersecretary of homeland security, urged the panel to first put workable border security and workplace enforcement systems in place and then consider a guest-worker program.

A prerequisite for a new worker program, Hutchinson said, must be the need to "satisfy the American public that we are capable of securing our borders."

And Hutchinson said people in other countries have to believe they will have a two- thirds chance of being caught if they attempt to enter the United States illegally, a deterrent that is not the case now.

And, Hutchinson said, they have to believe they will be detained.

SNIP

Feinstein did suggest at the hearing that senators look into raising the number of immigrants who can come into the country legally each year.

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To: ClaireSolt

I grew up on the Ark, MO, line..I know what its like there and what it become


21 posted on 05/18/2005 8:03:49 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Happy2BMe
Link to the article
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/05/18/sections/news/focus_government/article_523618.php

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22 posted on 05/18/2005 8:06:34 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: wildbill
How would you ever keep track of who is staying permanently at agricultural jobs?.

Under Feinstein's idea, which hasn't yet been finalized, longtime undocumented agricultural workers would get a "blue card," allowing them to continue to work in agriculture. After a period of years of continued agricultural work, they would be entitled to trade in their blue card for a "green card."

There is nothing new here, the SAW program in the mid 80s did the same thing. The result was as soon as the illegal aliens in agg received their valid immigration cards they left agg for better jobs in construction or the service industry. (I am sure all of us would do the same)

This created a labor shortage in agg into which an entire new generation of illegal aliens rushed into fill the vacuum. Proposals like this always result in more illegal immigration. IMHO the only program that will help is a non-immigrant guest worker program with no link to formal immigration. Guest workers could apply for permanent residence status while working as a guest worker, but they would have to wait in line like everyone else.

23 posted on 05/18/2005 8:06:51 AM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Thank you.


24 posted on 05/18/2005 8:08:07 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: kellynla

yes, what a timely time to bulk up the vote and she is definitely running for re-election, but apparently she doesn't understand magnetic fields. a guest worker program would be a magnet for illegal immigration? how does she explain the giant flow right now? how weak.


25 posted on 05/18/2005 8:08:46 AM PDT by avital2
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To: HiJinx
Sheesh, I can't believe I'm making excuses for ol' Asa...

Neither can I! Remember the illegal alien sweeps in Temeculah, California where a dozen border patrol agents rounded up about 400 illegal aliens in about 10 days? Asa was the guy who shut those down. Here is an audio link to the John and Ken Show Archives which show what a weasel the guy is. This was a town hall meeting put on by another weasel on this topic, Rep. Darrell Issa. This would be pretty funny (if it was not so sad) because the crowd gives these quislings a tough time.

26 posted on 05/18/2005 8:09:00 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: JesseJane
You mean the NAFTA-created bilateral and trilateral committees who are still trying to convince the Mexican customs broker on the U.S. side of the border that cash payoffs from the truckers for the fees and duties aren't the way we do business?

Requiring four to seven tractor and trailer movements for the crossing process for one southbound shipment is a good way for the brokers to get rich but it doesn't do much for moving freight expeditiously.

Anytime you are in an American truck stop and see a Mexican truck, walk over and talk to the driver. If he can't understand you or speak English in return to your questions call the DOT and report him. Speaking English is a federal requirement of all truckers who drive in the US.
27 posted on 05/18/2005 8:18:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: avital2

Time for a conservative to come forward and end this dinosaur's political career...
maybe Chris Cox???
Although there was some support for Cox to run against Boxer, he wouldn't budge...


28 posted on 05/18/2005 8:20:48 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: HiJinx

1100 miles isn't what most folks would call close. Reno to Tucson is about 1000 miles, isn't it?


29 posted on 05/18/2005 8:24:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: kellynla

I'll vote for anyone who puts America in front of reelection.


30 posted on 05/18/2005 8:26:38 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: B4Ranch

Let me pull my atlas out, here...ummm...yup, that looks about right. I didn't think you were that far away.

Still, it's all relative...in your case, the 'border' has moved itself close to you. Did you see the satire posted last week about Mexicans moving north when Los Angeles was declared to be part of Mexico?


31 posted on 05/18/2005 8:29:03 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
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To: B4Ranch
Anytime you are in an American truck stop and see a Mexican truck, walk over and talk to the driver. If he can't understand you or speak English in return to your questions call the DOT and report him. Speaking English is a federal requirement of all truckers who drive in the US.

Good to know ... what with 700+ Mexican trucking firms vying for passage authority on US highways. Another number for the speed dial.

32 posted on 05/18/2005 8:32:59 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: HiJinx

Yes and I see them in the finer steak houses in Reno also.


33 posted on 05/18/2005 8:33:30 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: usurper
The result was as soon as the illegal aliens in agg received their valid immigration cards they left agg for better jobs in construction or the service industry. (I am sure all of us would do the same)

This created a labor shortage in agg into which an entire new generation of illegal aliens rushed into fill the vacuum. Proposals like this always result in more illegal immigration.

I agree with you. People can't (and don't want to) do that kind of work indefinitely.

I think the following (from Victor Davis Hanson) needs to get more attention.

(Not directed towards you, usurper. You already get it.)

     "Let us also accept that there is something morally wrong in inviting thousands of youths from central Mexico — without legality, English or education — to work cheaply in permanently unskilled jobs until they age and tire, only to be cast by employers onto the near bankrupt entitlement industry, while we invite a new cohort of healthier and younger workers in to replace them."

Source: A Quick Fix — Do Your Own Dishes
By Victor Davis Hanson
May 16, 2005
http://jewishworldreview.com/0505/hanson051605.php3

FR thread at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1404057/posts

34 posted on 05/18/2005 8:35:35 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


35 posted on 05/18/2005 8:38:33 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: sure_fine

Well, Fayetteville is bright and new and shiny and prosperous, thanks to the evil corporation Wallmart. The rest is desolate.


36 posted on 05/18/2005 8:38:56 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: LNewman
Feinstein, D-Calif., said any new guest-worker program – even one requiring employees to eventually return to their home country – would be a "magnet for illegal immigration" and something she could not support.

On this, she's to the right of many Republicans. Sad.

37 posted on 05/18/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: wildbill
While I'm sympathetic to Californians wanting to ensure their stoop labor supply

Most California citizens DON'T WANT THIS, it's the politicians who push it.

38 posted on 05/18/2005 8:54:58 AM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: dalereed

"Ever since Clinton came into office border enforcement has been eqivalent to zero."

I guess that Clinton was responsible for the amnesty which was Reagan's contribution?

Remember, back when we were assured it was a one-time amnesty, which would be coupled with tougher enforcement.

This Orange County resident hasn't noticed any difference, between parties and administrations.

I know how popular it is to blame everything on Clinton, but Bush has been in office over four years.

He is responsible and he stands firmly for easing movement of people; call it by any name you like.

The chance for doing anything meaningful is rowing, as more and more states get their small share of what California (and Texas, Florida, etc.) have had for decades.

As for raids on companies: I think discussing it is a oke, cuz it doesn't happen, to any meaningful amount.

Not under any recent President. But my memory only goes back 50 years, so maybe somebody else remembers a raid on a company, a farm, a construction site, etc.


39 posted on 05/18/2005 8:55:18 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: B4Ranch
>>Speaking English is a federal requirement of all truckers who drive in the US.<<

Too bad it's not a requirement for ALL drivers.

40 posted on 05/18/2005 8:55:43 AM PDT by JesseJane (Is Isikoff, Eason Jordans daddy?? Turds of a feather...)
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