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Science News ^
| 5/14/05
| Sid Perkins
Posted on 05/20/2005 11:39:36 AM PDT by furball4paws
An excellent compilation of information related to the evolution of echolocation.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bats; crevo; crevolist; echolocation; evolution
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To: furball4paws
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posted on
05/20/2005 11:40:58 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Drooling moron since 1998...)
To: furball4paws
OOhhh. . .be still, my beating heart.
;-)
To: PatrickHenry
Here's an evo paper from our friends at ScienceNews.
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posted on
05/20/2005 11:42:39 AM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: furball4paws
Good article. I'm gonna ping the list. But couldn't you post the whole thing?
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posted on
05/20/2005 11:56:41 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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posted on
05/20/2005 11:57:56 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
To: PatrickHenry
I am not sure who lets the posting of entire articles, so I prefer to let people go to the article itself. Are there some guidelines on this?
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:01:16 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: furball4paws
It started with some bats saying "Marco!" and other bats answering "Polo!"
Unfortunately for evolutionists, that part is irreducibly complex: simply saying "Marco!" doesn't lead to anything.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:03:57 PM PDT
by
Physicist
To: Physicist
It does if the other bat's name happens to be Marco.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:08:33 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: furball4paws
Are there some guidelines on this? Supposed to be, but I've never run into problems with science articles, or stuff from university websites, gov't sites like NASA, or research institutes. I think the problems are mainly with some newspapers and general-circulation magazines.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:10:57 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
To: Physicist
Especially if the one saying "Marco" is a she-bat.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:10:59 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: furball4paws
ah, an adjunct to selective reproduction. yes, I see it now.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:21:00 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: King Prout
I find it interesting that Batologists had defined two bat groups, ones that echolocate and ones that don't. Now they find that some of the echolocaters are more closely related to the non-echolocaters. When taxonomy was based just on morphological characteristics this kind of mistake was easy to make, but now DNA sequence information will straighten all that out and I will bet a pile of useful evolutionary information will be the result, much to the chagrine of the creationoids.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:25:18 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: All
There's an attached blurb to the main article "Biological Arms Race" describing how prey work out escape plans from echolocation. It's worth reading in its own right.
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:27:23 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: Physicist
Great, now I've got that Marco/Polo Holiday Inn commercial in my head.
To: furball4paws
I find it interesting that Batologists had defined two bat groups, ones that echolocate and ones that don't. Maybe they were dyslexic and just looking for chocolate?
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posted on
05/20/2005 12:43:23 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: furball4paws
DNA sequencing is good, yes.
but limited.
I look forward to the day when any DNA sequence can be READ
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posted on
05/20/2005 1:20:44 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: furball4paws
the tumbling moth routine?
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posted on
05/20/2005 1:21:21 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: furball4paws
How could echo location have evolved.?.
Maybe bats are relatives of WHALES... or Dolphins.. thats why they have no feathers..
How did a feather ... evolve.?.
Maybe we'll find all this out when National Security evolves to take in account our BORDERS.. and Moonbats can echo locate some patriotism..
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posted on
05/20/2005 1:31:38 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
To: contemplator
Great, now I've got that Marco/Polo Holiday Inn commercial in my head. Try chasing it out with the "Orca! Orca! Oh, I love Orcas"
You're welcome.
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posted on
05/20/2005 2:59:53 PM PDT
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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