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A Reputation in Tatters - Time To Impeach Bush (by Paul Craig Roberts)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | 5/20/05

Posted on 05/20/2005 1:26:39 PM PDT by KidGlock

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To: An Old Marine
They hate us. Some a little, some a lot, some rabidly. One thing that is the same if you try and pin them down on why it always comes down to one thing its that they are not successful and we are.

I agree with your synopsis although I probably would have used different phrasing. Humankind has always been competitive and mankind even more so. The fact that we are first in the pecking order is a serious affront to many in the world and the US. In a society (Mideast)that supposes that their culture and intellect are superior to all others it must have been a shock to wake up fifty years ago and find yourself a hundred years behind. You are right to fear their zeal and hate.
421 posted on 05/23/2005 6:59:42 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
You are right to fear their zeal and hate.

A slight correction. I do not fear their hate. I recognize it, prefer it didn't exist, and am resigned that it is a problem (like all too many others) that we have defferred dealing with to some future date.

It may be that Bush's grand plan to lead them to modernizationa nd democracy will work. I don't think so. Quite simply you can't influence irrational emotion with sreason no matter how sweetly packaged. The vast majority of the mid-east population has decided to rage against America rather than face their own internal problems. Its an easy alternative to facing their reality.

422 posted on 05/23/2005 7:16:10 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: KMAJ2
How would you have had us get Bin Laden ? Invade Pakistan ? The simple reality is there is nothing different that could have been done once Bin Laden crossed the Pakistan border. Yes, a mistake was made in the delay to allow negotiations when he was cornered at the Tora Bora caves in Afghanistan. The fact that Bush got Musharraf to sign on to the War on Terror was a master stroke.

It never ceases to amaze me that an apparently intelligent person like yourself can present pap like this with a straight face.

What kind of "war" is being waged when we lack the will to pursue our enemy? What kind of an undisputed world power, matched by no other, is cowed by a small, backward, half-civilized country?

423 posted on 05/23/2005 7:17:29 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: KMAJ2
Isolationism will not solve the problem. Wahabbism has to be dealt with carefully or you DO risk turning the whole sect against the US, and not just the radical extremists of that sect.

Radical extremists of that sect? Are you implying that there are Wahabbis that are not radical extremists?

I can not, do not, presume to speak for all Paleos, but isolationism has no part in my objection to/bewilderment in the actions of the administration.

We were viciously, criminally attacked! This Paleo has never denied that response was appropriate, nay, demanded! The action in Afghanistan was, IMO, totally correct and effective in as far as it went. But, early on puzzling, evasive statements began to arise from Washington. "Islam is a religion of Peace", "they" hate us for our freedom, our democracy, our this, our that.

Who was "they"? Clearly "they" was bin Laden and his very radical Wahabbi instigators and their supporters. Instead of logically and aggressively pursuing these most obvious foes we suddenly became obsessively fearful of and reactive to an entirely different threat, i.e, very questionably existent WMD's in a nation that had NEVER seriously threatened the USA!

As the rationale for this totally irrational diversion from straightforward pursuit of the glaringly obvious foe morphed from WMD's to "destruction of an evil despot", to democracy for the Iraqis, to democracy for every beggar's son on the planet, the foes themselves have simply drifted off the radar screen!

You know who the enemy is as well as I do. Your denial, diversion, and inventions are almost as puzzling as our Commander in Chief's.

424 posted on 05/23/2005 8:33:11 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Gondring

I consider myself a fan and admirer of President Reagan, also. Nothing I have written indicates anything to the contrary.

Maybe Paul Robert Craig wasn't dropped on his head at birth after all, but certainly seems to have been dropped on his noggin since George W. Bush became President. For precious Paul is spitting the same venom at Bush, as are the bitter liberals and their MSM.

How could Bush have deceived Congress about those WMDs, when they had access to the same information as he?


425 posted on 05/23/2005 12:28:24 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The House of Representatives serves people-The Senate serves phony baloney.)
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To: kevkrom

Oh wow! I didn't know that Clinton was actually impeached.


426 posted on 06/04/2005 6:33:40 PM PDT by remintola
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To: KidGlock

I think this article wins today's prize for inserting the greatest number of cliches in the first paragraph alone.


427 posted on 06/04/2005 6:35:26 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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