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Drift to World Government?
Washingtontimes.com ^ | May 31, 2005 | Richard W. Rahn

Posted on 05/31/2005 3:26:55 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

What level of government (local, state, federal, multinational institution or none) should regulate the following: What trees you may cut on your home property; whether you may burn logs in your home fireplace; what identification you need to open a bank account in your local bank?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borderxxi; cafta; jbs; nafta; nwo
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1 posted on 05/31/2005 3:26:55 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Drift to World Government?

Well....yes.

2 posted on 05/31/2005 3:28:05 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
What level of government (local, state, federal, multinational institution or none)...

Just yesterday, I was thinking that a "typical multi-nationalist" person in Western Europe has many layers of government: (1) local, (2) province/state, (3) central/federal, (4) European Commission, (5) United Nations...

3 posted on 05/31/2005 3:36:43 AM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Believe it or not here where I live in Maryland, because my property is in what they call a crucial area, The County government does regulate what trees can be cut and what they have to be replaced with. If a limb fell on my house I cannot legally cut it off without a permit.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 3:37:32 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm generally more in favor of local government than more far reaching - but criminy, that's ridiculous.


5 posted on 05/31/2005 3:56:37 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Sounds to me like you have a good bit of left wing fascism going on in your county.

If I'm reading you right, not only does the government control what you can or cannot do on your property, it charges you tax (permit fee) to improve your property (remove a branch from your roof).

So you're getting the shaft two ways.

Under this system, private property owners (serfs) take care of the land and pay taxes on it, while government wields complete control over the land.

It’s win-win for an imperial government. Not only do serfs work the land, the serfs also pay the government taxes for the labor they performed. It’s the ultimate government abuse and scam on the people.


6 posted on 05/31/2005 4:56:19 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Drift to World Government?

No, we're not 'drifting'...

We're being rapidly rowed there by our elected leaders, whether we WANT to go that direction, or not!

7 posted on 05/31/2005 5:13:46 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ..... nor am I a 'person' as defined and/or created by law!)
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To: MamaTexan

Let's see, we have City Government, County Government, State Government, Federal Government, and that's just here!

I believe GWB's refusal to do anything about the border is for the precise reason that he wants chaos and essentially no border whatsoever.

The elite in Washington, including GWB, are rapidly moving us in the wrong direction.


8 posted on 05/31/2005 5:17:49 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I would probably word it a bit differently than "world government". But we certainly do see increasing centralization of power. First the Feds take it; then they hand it over to international bodies (plural, not one government). The problem is that there are no longer any rules to follow. The US Constitution is now a quaint, old document that is honored in the breach continously. Without a foundation, anything goes...and that is why we are drifting on many dimensions.


9 posted on 05/31/2005 5:57:02 AM PDT by worldclass (www.massright.com)
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To: sergeantdave; Gabz; hedgetrimmer; JesseJane; B4Ranch

The ultimate abuse and scam on the American people is CAFTA and the FTAA. These 2 treaties are the back door into the UN.

These 2 treaties plus the WTO treaty are written almost verbatim from the UN. There is not a dimes worth of difference in all 3 treaties.

These treaties are not about trade, they are about control and socializing, to the ultimate, the American people.

How do I know this? I was on another thread and got into an argument. So I decided to back it up with the document. Guess what? I was wrong in my argument and the free traders were also wrong.

I found this offical FTAA site. http://www.ftaa-alca.org

I then clicked on 3rd draft, the Chapter XVI Services. Approximaately 1/4 of the page down you will find the words "more burdensome than". Read this part and also scroll down to professional qualilfications and read. You will see that licenses ,such as nursing licenses and CPA licenses, can be downgraded to taking an oral test or interview.

The thing that bugged me about this was the 3 words "more burdensome than" as they are not specific words. So I then went to google and typed in "more burdensome than". I got an eyeopener as to how powerful these words are.

I then went to http://www.wto.org and hit the search engine at the top of the page. Then the search engine at the bottom of the page I typed in "more burdensome than". Whoa, powerful words. I then clicked on # 8 and #9 on that page. These 2 documents explain what "more burdensome than" means.

Still not satisfied, I went to http://www.ustr.gov and again to the search engine. The 3 little words did not work so I typed in "CAFTA final text". I then went to Chapter 11. Again those 3 little words "more burdensome that" were there. On down you will read the profession critera for licenses.

As I said earlier, there is not a dimes worth of difference in any of these treaties.

With the signing of these treaties we will be giving Americas high standards of licensing to a tribunal to down-grade as they see fit. I imagine, any other law that comes in the way of a country making a profit in the US is up for grabs by the tribunal. Sickening.

These treaaties are not about trade, they are about control.













10 posted on 05/31/2005 6:13:58 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo; Justanobody

Thanks for the ping TT.. Thanks for all your research as well.. I believe you are exactly right. This is about control, and world governance.


11 posted on 05/31/2005 6:23:53 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: texastoo

I have always believed these type things are about money and control - their control over us and our money.


12 posted on 05/31/2005 6:27:33 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Willie Green

Read post #10. this will support your argument on what an abomination CAFTA, the FTAA abd WTO is.


13 posted on 05/31/2005 6:29:00 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; NewRomeTacitus

Read post #10 and ping those interested.

Note, the specific or non-specific language in these 3 treaties.

I am not willing to gives my country over to a tribunal.


14 posted on 05/31/2005 6:41:10 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: JesseJane
Thanks for the ping JJ. More homework!

Also, doesn't NAFTA lead us into CAFTA which leads us into FTAA and so on and so on?

15 posted on 05/31/2005 7:11:59 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: texastoo
I am not willing to gives my country over to a tribunal.

The heroes in Congress are the 40 Republicans resisting these scam deals like CAFTA. Hopefully they don't cave in to the enormous pressure in the coming weeks.

16 posted on 05/31/2005 7:12:57 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Justanobody

Yepper. Check out Texastoo's post #6.


17 posted on 05/31/2005 7:16:12 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: Justanobody

Ooops.. correction, post #10.. Dang fangers. :)


18 posted on 05/31/2005 7:17:03 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

All of you need to read my steps in #10.

As Paul Harvey would say, this is the rest of the story.

CAFTA and NAFTA are only partially trade treaties. The rest is world dominance by tribunals. Our voices will never be heard again. I found out also that the original text of NAFTA didn't have these 3 words, "more burdensome than".


19 posted on 05/31/2005 7:22:02 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Justanobody

The orginal text of NAFTA didn't have these 3 words.


20 posted on 05/31/2005 7:23:34 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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