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FLASHBACK: The 'Dumb' Factor
Washington Post ^ | Friday, August 27, 2004 | Howell Raines

Posted on 06/08/2005 4:13:13 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

-SNIP-

What is presidential intelligence and how much does it really matter?

We can all recite the lists of ostentatiously brilliant presidents who faltered (Wilson, Hoover, etc.) and apparent plodders who triumphed (Truman). When I was covering the Reagan White House in 1981, all his top aides were wholesaling Oliver Wendell Holmes's famous comment about Franklin Roosevelt's possessing "a second-rate intellect, but a first-rate temperament." In the end, Reagan confounded scholars, journalists and voters alike. In an obituary essay, his biographer Edmund Morris referred first to Reagan's "intelligence" and later to his "ignorance."

To be fair, innate intelligence has to do with capability, and ignorance to do with variables such as educational opportunity and personal diligence. But the conundrum remains. Is intellect important in presidents? If Americans can't solve the question definitively in the matter of John F. Kerry and George W. Bush, we damn sure ought to make an educated guess.

One highly imperfect but salient way to do so is at the level of campaign tactics. Does anyone in America doubt that Kerry has a higher IQ than Bush? I'm sure the candidates' SATs and college transcripts would put Kerry far ahead. Yet, at this point in the campaign, Bush deserves an A or a high B -- instead of a gentleman's C -- when it comes to neutralizing Kerry's knowledge advantage.

He, or more likely Karl Rove, has triggered Kerry's taste for complicated ideas and explanations. Kerry is telling us that we live in a complex world. Americans know that, but as an electorate, they are not drawn to complexity. Sen. Kerry, read my lips. Your explanations about your conflicting votes on the Iraq war and how you would have conducted it are wondrous as rhetorical architecture.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; bush; college; education; howellraines; iq; kerry; kerryrecord; newyorktimes; yale
In light of Kerry's grades coming out, I thought this article from Howell Raines (former executive editor of the New York Times) was pretty funny.
1 posted on 06/08/2005 4:13:14 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Great post -- it's always fun to mock liberals who imagine they're the smartest people on the planet.


2 posted on 06/08/2005 4:17:55 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: West Coast Conservative

priceless--but but but look who wrote it,and it appeared in the GUARDIAN so it must be true---LOL LOL LOL LOL


3 posted on 06/08/2005 4:21:07 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: West Coast Conservative

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story/0,14259,1291916,00.html


4 posted on 06/08/2005 4:22:03 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Does anyone in America doubt that Kerry has a higher IQ than Bush? I'm sure the candidates' SATs and college transcripts would put Kerry far ahead."


Does anyone in American doubt that Howell Raines is too stupid to serve as a fence post??? Oh, wait, I guess the liberals haven't gotten that news flash yet....


5 posted on 06/08/2005 4:22:27 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The whole "Reagan was stupid" thing was just as phony. Anyone believing that should read his letters. That was not a stupid man, not by any measure.


6 posted on 06/08/2005 4:22:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 68skylark
The LSM ASSumes that because you smile you dumb! Sheesh just look at those sour puss dumocrats, a smile (other than that botox idiot pelosi) is never seen of those yoyos! Go GWB we LOVE YA! Keep smiling, it drives those yoyos crazy!
7 posted on 06/08/2005 4:23:15 PM PDT by boo4
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To: West Coast Conservative

Sorry about that parade of yours Howel. When it Raines, it pours! Yuk....................and...................Yuk.


8 posted on 06/08/2005 4:40:57 PM PDT by Socratic (Honor the Liberator - He toils for you.)
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To: Enchante

I seem to recall someone estimated Bush's IQ is between 125 and 130 while Kerry's is 120-125. Am I remembering correctly?


9 posted on 06/08/2005 4:43:22 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Billthedrill

Pft. Read? I'll take all of my impressions about important historical figures from sound bites, thank you very much.


10 posted on 06/08/2005 4:44:17 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Does anyone in America doubt that Kerry has a higher IQ than Bush? I'm sure the candidates' SATs and college transcripts would put Kerry far ahead.

He was sure about that? Did he check and recheck? So, this is how it works: if a Liberal 'journalist' is sure about something, he doesn't need to check (let alone recheck).

11 posted on 06/08/2005 4:45:58 PM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: marblehead17

don't know about that, but I do know there's no reasonable basis for all the smirking 'Rats to believe that clowns like Kerry and Gore are sooooo very intelligent compared to Bush or most R. leaders. The Ds do have those like the Clintons and Krugman who are clever in a psychotic way.... everything in the empirical world is filtered through their extreme biases, so their apparent intelligence is greatly offset by their lack of judgment, maturity, and wisdom.


12 posted on 06/08/2005 9:03:14 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Howell Raines got that idea from a column written by
Jason Blair. Seriously, I once read a book written by
a psychological team and they claimed that the President
with the highest IQ was John Quincy Adams. No one doubts
that Jefferson was close. Woodrow Wilson was the only
President with a Ph.d and his work on "Congressional
Government" is still considered a classic. As President
of Princeton University he instituted many reforms, as
he did as Governor of New Jersey. As President he proved
to be somewhat too idealistic. One anecdote: After the
First World War he went to Paris to negotiate the peace
and presented his Fourteen Points for the reconstruction
of Europe. Clemenceau of France said, "God Almighty only
had Ten!" I think there is such a thing as a "political
intelligence" that is not directly related to IQ or any
other expertise. It may be called a gift of sorts.
They say that the only truly charismatic presidents of
the 20th century were T.R., FDR, and JFK. I would also
contend that college grades and test scores are only
a very indirect indication of real intelligence. The
comparison of Bush and Kerry verifies one of my points.
It appears their academic performance was about equal
but Bush has the political "gift" of which Kerry is
devoid.


13 posted on 06/08/2005 10:24:40 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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Bush/Kerry IQ Comparison, October 24, 2004

Steve Sailer has an exhaustive analysis of standardized tests taken by the two candidates, including SATs and officer candidate aptitude tests, to conclude that, if anything, George Bush is probably a little smarter than John Kerry. The article wanders a great deal, and never quite gets down to claiming a direct comparison, but if I read it right the conclusion is that both men have IQs of 120 or higher, and that Bush's is probably in the range 125-130.
Source: mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/051556.php


To be fair, the candidates' IQs, SATs and college transcripts would put the unemployed and perpetually wrong Howell Raines far behind.
14 posted on 06/09/2005 8:11:46 AM PDT by OESY
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