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1 posted on 06/17/2005 4:32:44 PM PDT by TFine80
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Just kill the extension of DST.


2 posted on 06/17/2005 4:34:25 PM PDT by Perdogg (Send Durbin to gitmo!)
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3 posted on 06/17/2005 4:34:33 PM PDT by My2Cents
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Just out of curiosity....how was there and ice-age if there were no SUVs and even an America to cause it? Just a thought?
4 posted on 06/17/2005 4:35:20 PM PDT by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: TFine80

It's not fair. The Communist Party at least had "useful idiots". All the idiots in the Republican Party are COMPLETELY USELESS!


6 posted on 06/17/2005 4:35:54 PM PDT by Argus (Omnia taglinea in tres partes divisa est.)
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9 posted on 06/17/2005 4:46:56 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: TFine80; marron; Grampa Dave

Here's the key sentence:

"Non-compliant parties would be able to buy financial rights to exceed their share of the carbon dioxide limits."

The key to reducing pollution is the move to hydrogen fuel cells for vehicles: the worst polluters, whether or not they cause "global warming". What the Senator is proposing is a Kyoto scam, asystem of trading credits and laundering money who knows where. Closing a facility anyway, make money selling "credits." The emissions and savings are hard to grade and ripe for cheating, which is what Kyoto was designed for. I recall Maurice Strong, designer of Kyoto, turned around and bought coal plants in China to sell to Canadian polluters. Will the Chinese plants actually reduce their emissions in turn? Ha!

Global warming or not, a way to reduce pollution is to invest in hydrogen and alternatives. Or just tax oil more than methane to encourage more methane substitition. The Senator's plan, just like Kyoto, is a scam hiding under the cover of environmentalism.


10 posted on 06/17/2005 4:47:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TFine80

Kinda worries me what our politicians are going to do when continental drift becomes an issue.


11 posted on 06/17/2005 4:47:58 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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This is interesting in comparison to the proposals for terraforming other planets. We are going to engineer Mars so we can live there, and maybe the moon, too. Yet, we are wound around the axle about doing the simplest things to our home planet. We are not at the point of controlling our base climate, or distrubuting fresh water, or even keeping the dust down, or even deciding if we need to. Is there any serious hope that we have a destiny of our own choosing?


12 posted on 06/17/2005 4:51:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Some may think I am a methodist)
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To: TFine80; All
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13 posted on 06/17/2005 4:53:29 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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The Senator could start with cleaning up our federal forests. Vast tracts of poorly managed forests full of dead, dying, and burning trees are adding to the pollution problem instead of doing what evergreen forests are supposed to do, convert carbon dioxide into oxygen.


15 posted on 06/17/2005 4:54:29 PM PDT by yoswif
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The commies must be doing a full court press. The MSM is trying to push the BS that greenhouse gases debate is over.

These old timers are mistaking the environmental movement for the conservation movement.

Environmentalism is just communism with an unwashed green t-shirt.


19 posted on 06/17/2005 6:30:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Domenici has met with senior administration officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, to try to find a solution, Flint said. Domenici "is very cautious ... about creating a fissure in the Republican caucus and with the administration," Flint said.

At least he's not pulling a McCain, and is trying to be a team player by finding a solution.

21 posted on 06/17/2005 7:07:13 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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