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1 posted on 06/20/2005 5:23:24 PM PDT by Stew Padasso
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oooh, this is news!


2 posted on 06/20/2005 5:26:36 PM PDT by pipecorp (PC just plain monicas!)
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"Quotas damage the trust between the police and the public," said PBA board member John Giangrasso.

No, watching cops ignoring crime and drug dealing in open view in public places damages the trust a lot more.

3 posted on 06/20/2005 5:28:06 PM PDT by konaice
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"Police officers have a certain degree of discretion in taking enforcement actions," an NYPD spokesman said, "as long as they meet the minimum requirements of making enough residents less wealthy."


4 posted on 06/20/2005 5:28:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Stew Padasso

Ticket quotas exsist??? Oh my gosh! Really??? My sister is a cop, and she says they don't have quotas.....but if an officer doesn't write enough tickets, at the end of the month, they are reprimanded. But they don't call it a quota.


5 posted on 06/20/2005 5:28:32 PM PDT by PilloryHillary
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Officers were also told to make 11 collars and issue 33 moving-violation and 33 quality-of-life summonses.

Hah? What's a quality-of-life summons?

7 posted on 06/20/2005 5:33:48 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If we're The Religious Right, does that make them The Godless Left? Discuss.)
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To: Stew Padasso; Squantos; Chapita

Crime, we need more crimes to fill the quotas that don't exist.


10 posted on 06/20/2005 5:43:24 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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I don't know where the "line" is on enforcement, and I doubt anyone else does. But a department which is satisfied on "stats" should be disbanded.


13 posted on 06/20/2005 5:44:09 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Stew Padasso

Not good. I don't like seeing police coerced into creating criminals.


14 posted on 06/20/2005 5:46:18 PM PDT by mysterio
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The Washington State Highway Patrol has proudly let be known that they have a quota of tickets that they must give out daily for seatbelt violations.


15 posted on 06/20/2005 5:49:18 PM PDT by nightdriver
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Three NYPD sergeants have confirmed what police brass have denied for years: Ticketing quotas exist.

Yikes! Next thing you know someone will say chain smoking raises risk of lung cancer.

My brother spent thirty years as a cop in a Minneapolis suburb. His last eighteen months he never wrote a citation. By then he worked the day shift almost exclusively, and he had advanced as far as he ever expected. When the cost of a moving violation increased to more than $100.00 he said that was just fine, but some folks simply couldn't afford it. So his rule was if he stopped a driver and that person treated him with respect, he would say, "Next time take a closer look for that stop sign," or whatever. Since he worked days, he had a different class of scofflaw than he had working a night shift. Thus he issued many verbal warnings.

I guess at first the hierarchy was a little miffed at him. Eventually they concluded there was nothing they could use to get the twist on him so just figured he would eventually retire. Eventually he did.

18 posted on 06/20/2005 5:50:00 PM PDT by stevem
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My wife and I used to be acquainted with a state cop in our locality with whom she had worked when he was in the military. One day we were visiting, and his wife happened to remark how he had arrested someone the previous week for being intoxicated on the highway. She evidently didn't think he needed to concern himself with such a piddling thing, and told him as much. To which we indignantly replied, "It was a perfectly good drunk!"


27 posted on 06/20/2005 6:22:03 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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So we are presented with the fact that the corrupt city fathers use police as revenue collectors rather than crime fighters.

Next we will learn that democrats are really socialists.

And then we will discover that the living constitution is the resurrected communist manifesto.

Life is just one big fat happy classroom.


34 posted on 06/20/2005 6:38:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: Stew Padasso

They should just write ticket to UN officials only and take them to court when they dont pay !


36 posted on 06/20/2005 6:42:18 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Stew Padasso

What happened Stew - did you happen to fall within somebody's 'quota'?


40 posted on 06/20/2005 6:50:35 PM PDT by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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49 posted on 06/20/2005 10:17:57 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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"Watch your Ps and Qs" ping.


55 posted on 06/21/2005 4:41:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: Stew Padasso

I agree, quotas are a bad idea, but as Rush would say "run the math". There are 13 weeks in a quarter, so he is expected to average 2.7 parking tickets a week, in addition to 2.5 traffic tickets, and 2.5 "quality of life" tickets, whatever the hell that means, as well as 0.84 arrests/week. Any cop who is paying attention will no doubt exceed those numbers without citing anyone that could be considered a marginal case. The only one I find a little disturbing is the 0.84 arrests/week, but I live in a small town with about 150 cops, where we would probably never see 126 arrests in a week. I'm not sure about New York, though. Maybe there, that number is as low as the ticketing numbers.


62 posted on 06/22/2005 10:13:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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New York City police officers are required to write a minimum of 35 parking tickets, 33 tickets for moving violations such as speeding, 33 "quality of life" summonses and make 11 arrests each quarter according to a handwritten memo obtained by the New York Post. Failure to write a sufficient number of tickets will result in a poor performance assessment and other disciplinary action.
The non-existing quota strikes again.
cops are forced to write ridiculous tickets to raise more revenue for the city or face the consequences.
The city is using its finest as tax collectors or peace officers. You decide.
63 posted on 06/24/2005 9:04:27 AM PDT by george wythe
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