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Surviving a Nuclear Attack on Washington, D.C.
National Journal ^ | June 24th 2005 | By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr.

Posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by ExSoldier

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To: MamaDearest; Godzilla; Cindy; JustPiper
The TMer's should be redirected here, again. It's a great review of the issues.
461 posted on 03/31/2010 10:11:09 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Ah, one of my favorite threads that won’t die. Though it looked familiar.


462 posted on 03/31/2010 10:22:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: ExSoldier

The loss of all our historic buildings and statuary would be sad.


463 posted on 03/31/2010 10:25:06 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I like to bump this thread every few years, because a lot of folks have joined in the interim and it's good to make the rounds for them. Also it always seems to be current events.
464 posted on 03/31/2010 10:56:25 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier; Joya; Quix
Thanks for bumping it.

Please take note of post number 455.

Please note that October 11, 2009 is in what some of us have the temerity to call "the past".

Please note that Washington, DC and it's environs are not a radioactive wasteland.

Some of them are a moral wasteland, and may even be a teenage wasteland, but they were not nuked. A nuke did not "go off" in Washington, DC.

That is all.

465 posted on 03/31/2010 11:02:27 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ExSoldier

Well, at least they blew up the IRS...


466 posted on 03/31/2010 11:11:38 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ArrogantBustard; ExSoldier

Correct.

I’m grateful it didn’t happen.

Does that mean it’s time to bury my head in the sand?

NO.


467 posted on 03/31/2010 11:15:52 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

PRAISE GOD IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.

As I’ve noted repeatedly,

timing about predictions is seemingly always wrong for whatever reasons.

If folks still think that Iran, North Korea, Jihadi’s are not itching to achieve such a thing . . .

than I think

THAT’S UNREAL.


468 posted on 03/31/2010 11:21:48 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Joya
The essay by the retired nco on the effects of NBC Warfare looks like it came straight from MY notes at the US Army's Nuclear, Biological & Chemical Warfare School they sent me to when I was on active duty. What he wrote is 100% true.

I also notice the BOZO who predicted the NBC version of Armageddon in DC on OCT 11th 2009 has pulled his video. Whomever that was should go away from the public microphone forever.

469 posted on 03/31/2010 11:36:24 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Sigh. Always always good to hear from you.

Thanks for your presence here.

Glad you are standing watch.

Hope you and your wife are doing well.

May you have a meaningful time on Good Friday tomorrow and may you have a joy-filled Resurrection Day on Sunday.

Your FRiend,
Joya


470 posted on 04/01/2010 4:44:15 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Jonathan
And here is what happens next, if I had anything to do with it: Tasking orders are sent to an Ohio class SSBN somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.

Within 15 minutes 24 Trident SLBM's are headed to the Middle East.

Every Muslim city of over 100,000 people is incinerated with a MIRV warhead.

Ditto

471 posted on 08/04/2010 8:30:59 PM PDT by Charlespg
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Sheltering in Place, how to handle radiation exposure.
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= = =
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... your real problem is the radioactive dust that the blast threw into the air. ... eventually expose 200,000 people to lethal doses of radiation if they stay exposed and unprotected in the fallout path for 24 hours. Sitting downwind in gridlock, with your vehicle’s windshield shattered, goes a long way toward giving you a lethal dose. All sorts of simple alternatives — moving away from downwind, seeking proper shelter, even taking a shower — go a long way toward saving you.

Fallout is simply radioactive dust, launched miles into the air in a mushroom cloud and then carried on the wind. Much of it is alpha particles, whose radiation cannot penetrate bare skin, or beta particles, which cannot penetrate layers of clothing. Both are most dangerous if inhaled — or if they settle on food that is eaten unwashed. More deadly are the gamma rays, whose radiation can go through walls. But even gammas cannot hurt you from cloud height. The danger starts when the dust settles to earth.

The ideal is to avoid the fallout in the first place. In apocalyptic gridlock, you cannot drive very far. But you may not have to. Normal winds blow the cloud into a long but narrow plume, just a few miles across. In typical Washington-area weather, Virginia, Montgomery County in Maryland, and most of the District itself are not in the fallout path at all. People in the path could conceivably walk out of the fallout zone in the 10 or 15 minutes before the dust begins to fall — if they know which way to go.

But, of course, you cannot count on perfectly typical weather. The wind might shift; the breeze you feel at ground level may be blowing crosswise to the radioactive clouds five miles up; a still day might cause the fallout to seep outward slowly in all directions; sudden rain or snow could wash the dust out of the sky, heavily dousing everything beneath the storm but sparing areas farther out.

If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.

The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero. A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.

For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”

Every major Washington-area hospital has some decontamination facilities, but 10,000 radiation patients in one day would swamp them. So mass decontamination falls to fire departments, with their mobile pumps and generators; their protective gear; their hazardous-materials experience; and, because both Maryland and Virginia have nuclear power reactors, their years of radiation training. Area firefighters can quickly set up special decontamination tents, and they have plans to take over buildings that have lots of showers — so high school gyms, for example, are a good place to head for. In the chaos of those first hours, said Michael Cline, state coordinator at the Virginia Department of Emergency Management, “the real key is to make sure people go to those facilities.” It will take every firefighter available to man the decontamination sites, and every cop to control the crowds pouring in panic out of the city.

FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE, GO TO

NUCLEAR THREAT INITIATIVE [NTI]

http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2005_6_24.html#A0F258F9

http://www.nti.org/index.html

REFERENCE LINK:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429926/posts


472 posted on 03/14/2011 2:14:30 PM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Joya

THX THX.


473 posted on 03/14/2011 5:27:55 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ex-Texan

Sheltering in Place excerpt, during fallout.


474 posted on 03/14/2011 6:01:03 PM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: All

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/


475 posted on 03/17/2011 2:35:58 AM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Joya
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476 posted on 07/08/2011 11:35:49 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier

Agreed and good to hear from you.


477 posted on 07/09/2011 6:12:13 AM PDT by Joya (Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: ExSoldier

DC getting nuked might actually save this country. Where’s the harm?


478 posted on 07/09/2011 6:18:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: 11Bush

“After all, I can take what I need from my liberal, unarmed, neighbors.

Except liberals live from your hand to their mouths. They usually have nothing stocked up.


479 posted on 07/09/2011 6:20:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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Bookmark.


480 posted on 03/29/2012 1:56:16 PM PDT by Joya (http://kony2012.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/)
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