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India and Japan, yes. Germany and Brazil, no. Of course if we really wanted to render the Security Council useless, we could always push for India and Pakistan.

[tjwmason]

Of course if we really wanted to render the Security Council useless, we could always push for India and Pakistan.

This could cause a major row. The whole of the Islamic world will do its nut if India is let on but Pakistan is not - not that that's necessarily a bad thing.