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"Landlords who participated in the program are bailing out and no longer accepting the vouchers as payment." "The voucher program has worked well for more than 30 years..."

Unfortunately Howard County Maryland passed a law making it illegal to reject these people directly(but they can still do credit checks.) This has wrecked the apartments.

This is exactly what will make the program work. Require the Section 8 recipient to pay a large >50 % proportion of their rent. Only the motivated will take advantage of the program. When taxpayers pay the entire rent there is no ownership or motivation for the recipient to value the rental unit. Libs are clueless.

Why don't you caring liberals take in these people? You can rent them a room instead of using 'our' money to wreck our neighborhoods.

1 posted on 07/05/2005 10:47:32 AM PDT by marylandrepub1
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"Next Store?" Are you sure you don't mean "next door?"


2 posted on 07/05/2005 10:51:17 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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Yup. The voucher program has destroyed one neighborhood after another.

I think all libs should be sentenced to live next door to a section 8 rental.

Long term assistance ONLY for disabled and elderly.


3 posted on 07/05/2005 10:51:17 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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I don't think they should live in stores.


6 posted on 07/05/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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Section 8 is being cut? Good.

But what is being done about the HUD home ownership program? Bush administration implemented that, and now my folks have to live next to ex-cons and drug addicts who "own" their home (subsidized by taxpayers) and cannot be kicked out, even when they harrass their neighbors.

I'm waiting for that to be cut.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 10:56:27 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (and sick of eminent domain abuse)
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...a popular federal program...

Oooh, its popular, can't touch it now.

If the Baltimore Sun wants Federal programs to be popular, the program should be converted to driving around blighted neighborhoods and throwing wads of cash to the clamoring throngs. That would be popular, and be essentially the same thing as Section 8, but with a lot less administrative cost.

8 posted on 07/05/2005 10:57:54 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Why don't you caring liberals take in these people?

Um, because the same liberals penned zoning and tax laws that make it extremely difficult?

Just a guess. ;-)

9 posted on 07/05/2005 10:59:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Why don't you caring liberals take in these people? You can rent them a room instead of using 'our' money to wreck our neighborhoods.

Excellent point.

10 posted on 07/05/2005 11:00:48 AM PDT by 68skylark
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My in-laws have a fairly large stock (> 30) of rental properties that could be characterized as lower-working-class in nature. They built up this little nest egg through hard work and thrift over many years, as sort of a second "job" along with working full-time jobs in the medical care field (hospital lab manager and nurse, now both retired from those roles, still have the rental properties).

They were always very careful on checking out the background of potential renters, and always stayed away from getting involved in Section 8.

Smart people, my in-laws. Did I mention they are life-long Republicans?



11 posted on 07/05/2005 11:01:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank) (NRA)
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I used to run a very large apartment complex that was trying to get rid of the last of it's Section 8 tenants. What a pain in the rear they were. We had one family that paid less than $100 for a $900 apartment and the kids would punch holes in all the doors, holes in the walls, tear up and destroy the carpet, cabinets, and practically everything else and the withhold their portion of the rent and we couldn't get the government portion until WE fixed the apartment. This happened over and over again for years.

The kids from this same family almost burnt their building up because she left the kids at home and they were playing with matches. We still couldn't get them out even after all that. The court looked after the tenants and let the landlords twist in the wind, backed up entirely by the state.


12 posted on 07/05/2005 11:03:01 AM PDT by jbarkley
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My wife was a property manager for a bunch of apartements in the Seattle area few years ago. One of them was probably 50% Section 8. There was one lady who paid $3 a month in rent. THREE DOLLARS! She would drive up in her Acura and pay with a $3 money order.


13 posted on 07/05/2005 11:04:23 AM PDT by jtminton (Help stop second hand rap!)
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And liberals oppose programs that will move people in taxpayer paid "public housing" to acquire their own home. Could it be that private home owners don't vote Democratic? No wonder the Baltimore Sun is hysterical. Reform of warehousing projects that condemn the poor to perpetual lives of blight and poverty is a threat to the Left.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 07/05/2005 11:04:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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most people can easily afford housing if they would just leave the cities where shacks sell for a million dollars.

You can buy and nice peace of land in the country for next to nothing.

I have never understood why poor people insist on sitting around the cities waiting for a handout when they could move to the county and have a better life for themselves and their children.

My God who would send their kids to an inner city school if they didn't have to?
20 posted on 07/05/2005 11:09:37 AM PDT by republican2005
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It has helped millions of low-income families live in affordable housing that meets federal living standards, and helped the federal government ease the national housing crisis by allowing housing authorities to use the private housing market.<<<

It is not the Governments job to help the poor with MY MONEY. CHARITY Should be voluntary ONLY. Housing programs funded with tax dollars are unconstitutional.


21 posted on 07/05/2005 11:09:47 AM PDT by Iron Matron (New Member: CONSTITUTION PARTY!!!)
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I'm familiar first hand with this situation. My Dad lived off of Section 8 funds for years. That was after he sponged off of relatives for close to 20 years. My Grandmother died and he had to go on welfare. There wasn't anything wrong with him, other than being epileptic(medically controlled) and some bursitis. He just didn't want to work. At long as he had someone else taking care of him, he wasn't about to lift a finger.


26 posted on 07/05/2005 11:16:54 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Does anyone know if illegals can get Sect. 8 assistance or something like that from the feds or stategov?


28 posted on 07/05/2005 11:17:58 AM PDT by american spirit
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6 years ago in VA, my family lived in a nice, normal, middle-class townhouse development. We had block parties, outings for the kids, cookouts, etc. All the hallmarks of middle-class America. Directly across the street from me, a family moved out and sold the townhouse to someone who then rented it out as a Section 8 housing. The change in the neighborhood was breathtaking. Cars coming and going all hours of the night and day, tearing up the street, WHILE CHILDREN WERE PLAYING! Gunfire at night, loud music coming from cars and the house, windows busted out of the front of the house, unbelievable damage both inside and out. That house was the reason my husband and I moved. I just didn't want to feel like I lived in an inner-city ghetto. The police became a constant presence. And yes, this was caused by ONE house and ONE renter.


Maybe this was an isolated incident, but when I perceive that my kids are in danger, I don't care about the 'odds.' I only want safety.

33 posted on 07/05/2005 11:23:10 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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"Given the nationwide shortage of affordable housing and other recent funding cuts to federal public housing programs, changes to the rent-assistance program known as Section 8 are sure to worsen the problem and force people to spend more on rent or live in substandard housing."

Or (gasp!) get a job.

36 posted on 07/05/2005 11:33:44 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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The program is far from broken; lawmakers don't need to fix it. (Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...

If the Baltimore Sun thinks it's a good program, you can bet it's a big government money transfer from taxpayers to taxtakers.

43 posted on 07/05/2005 11:45:52 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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I accepted a section 8 tenant once in a duplex I own and I won't do it again. The government sent me a check every month, so I didn't have to worry about the rent, but the tenant was a PITA. Even with free rent she was a financial basket case. She couldn't pay her garbage bill, so they stopped picking it up. By the time I figured this out it was over a month later and the garbage bags on the side of the house were starting to attract rats. I had to haul off the garbage myself, (billed against her deposit), and threaten her with eviction to get her to pay the garbage company. She seemed to have a new boyfriend every couple of months and I got calls periodically from the the neighbors about noisy parties. Fortunately she moved out on her own and while she left the place a little messy, the only damage was a hole in the drywall and a door.

She wasn't even close to being the worst tenant I have had, but I was happy to see her leave and I don't intend on renting to any more section 8 tenants.

47 posted on 07/05/2005 11:50:02 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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You can make book on it - if the government offers to help run the other way.
56 posted on 07/05/2005 12:09:40 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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