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"Landlords who participated in the program are bailing out and no longer accepting the vouchers as payment." "The voucher program has worked well for more than 30 years..."

Unfortunately Howard County Maryland passed a law making it illegal to reject these people directly(but they can still do credit checks.) This has wrecked the apartments.

This is exactly what will make the program work. Require the Section 8 recipient to pay a large >50 % proportion of their rent. Only the motivated will take advantage of the program. When taxpayers pay the entire rent there is no ownership or motivation for the recipient to value the rental unit. Libs are clueless.

Why don't you caring liberals take in these people? You can rent them a room instead of using 'our' money to wreck our neighborhoods.

1 posted on 07/05/2005 10:47:32 AM PDT by marylandrepub1
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"The program is far from broken; lawmakers don't need to fix it."

It's VERY broken, they need to ELIMINATE it.


58 posted on 07/05/2005 12:18:38 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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We provided highrises, they couldn't live there. We provided single-family rowhomes, they couln't live there. The government forcibly moved them into neighborhoods well above their socioeconomic class, and it's clear they can't live there.


65 posted on 07/05/2005 12:41:29 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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Yes. In New York City, you have Section 8ers in some cases living on the same block or building with folks paying $2,000+ per month for the same apartments. Landlords are starting to bail out due to continued high demand and the "expiration" of rent controlled tenants.


67 posted on 07/05/2005 12:51:25 PM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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A case study on the "benefits" of Section 8 is the south suburbs of Chicago. In less than 20 years an entire swath of bedroom communities was transformed into an area with little or no economic growth, with bloated populations of shiftless and urban poor with no usuable skills. Crime rates skyrocketed along with all the other things that go hand in hand. One-half of all the Section 8 certificates in the entire county are located in just 2 ZIP code areas of the south county. The caring 'Rats dumped all their problems way far away from their own homes, and destroyed a vast area in the process.

Kudos go to Mayor Dummy of Chicago, who dynamited all the large urban jungles there and dumped the occupants into the south burbs.


73 posted on 07/05/2005 1:54:29 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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Yeah, this whole next store business has to stop!!!


90 posted on 07/05/2005 6:22:17 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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ping


93 posted on 07/05/2005 6:33:27 PM PDT by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice)
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My wife and I just bought a condo it what was an area of heavy section eight housing. These apartments are renting for $900 a month (par for the area, but they were getting 1100$ for taking section eight before cutbacks last year).

We bought the first condo of four available and the other owners are going to code their buildings over the next 3-5 years. Our hope is that in the end over half to three quarters of the buildings are condos. Its a small risk for my wife and I but one we are willing to take. That and the fact we got it stripped out dirt cheap, we paid a fair price in the end but we picked everything out (wood floors, large kitchen cabinets, ...)

The reason these owners are going to condos? (1) They smell the end of the housing boom, it may not contract but it cant keep going like this. (2) They rent section eight for a year and then have to completely redo their apartments, things are broken, taken, or so filthy that they need a professional cleaning service. (3) Some of them live in their buildings and deal with the out of control kids, the apathetic parents, the noise late at night, the broken bottles, etc..

The could probably get away with renting to someone like us for 900$ (when we left our last apartment any damage to the apartment (nail holes in wall, dings, that kid of stuff) was well withing hte sec deposit and the place was as clean as a whistle (hours of cleaning). But when you have to put more than a thousand into a place to make it rent-able again after someone moves out its not worth it..

Section 8 could work if someone somewhere could figure out a reasonable way to provide accountability. Maybe your allowance should be based on what a landlord rates you (or the average of your last two/three). So if you're a good tenant you can keep the full allowance, if not you'll have to find a place thats not so nice and rents cheaper. I know that sec-8 is kinda like the voucher program in that it keeps government from being in the business of building housing and just provides money to someone else willing to take that burden on.

104 posted on 07/06/2005 5:37:01 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (I musta taken a wrong turn at 198.182.159.17)
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