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To: chuckles

How did you ever get the idea that the American people would have supported turning on our ally, the USSR, at the end of a successful war? Would never have happened. This is just a silly dream.


99 posted on 07/11/2005 6:12:55 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The point I was making was America is always hesitant to follow it's military leaders advice for some reason. We fear them as power hungry or war mongers or some other such phobia. Nobody liked the commies back then, but as you say, they felt obligated to revere them because they were an ally FOR A FEW MONTHS! I think most people felt Yalta was a sellout for their minimal help in the war. Anyway, millions suffered for decades because of a lack of fore sight.

By leaving Saddam in power in '91, we felt he was better than the unknown, and I don't know any military leader( notice my low opinion of Powell), that would leave the vanquished leader in power. Just asking for trouble if you ask me. Maybe we would have gotten the jubilation in the streets we thought we would get now, back then. The Arabs look at the west as weak because they don't have the fortitude to do what is necessary to have complete victory.

I just don't believe we should fire the first shot or loose one man without the willingness to "go all the way", including nukes, in any battle. If you don't have that attitude, then why go to battle. Would you be willing to die or loose a loved one, without the determination to see the battle to the victorious end? How much blood of hero's have been wasted on double clutching and indecision? If we decide (as is being reported now in the Drudge Report) to pull out and leave Iraq to hooks and crooks, then the 1700 dead and thousands wounded will have sacrificed in vain. If however, we end up with a lone democracy and a friend in the middle east, their blood is spilt for a glorious cause. An Earth changing cause. A history making cause. This is the beginning of World War III. It means the end of civilization to loose. It is that important. Let these bastids have nukes, and you don't even want to know the hellish nightmare that we will hand our children. Our resolve now is the test we must pass for the future of Earth. They are resolved. They are committed. Ask a WWII vet what he thought of the commitment of the Germans and the Japs in WWII. We had to beat them or die trying.

The Quran is their blueprint for world domination just as Hitler had his book. They believe their god has destined them to rule the Earth. It is that important. Right now, we try to make the distinction between "moderate" and fanatical Muslims. Show some weakness on our part, and you will be surprised how few "moderates" there will be. A billion and a half is a big number.

102 posted on 07/11/2005 6:56:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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