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The Karl Rove Story: Are Liberals and Their MSM Congenital Liars or Just Morons? (Great!)
MENS NEWS DAILY.COM ^ | JULY 19, 2005 | LEE MALVEN

Posted on 07/19/2005 8:14:04 PM PDT by CHARLITE

"Karl Rove did no wrong. There was no “malicious attempt to smear Wilson” nor was there any counter campaign against Wilson, other than Rove’s warning to Matt Cooper that Wilson was way off base when he implied that he had been sent to Niger at Dick Cheney’s request."


I’m beginning to agree with Michael Savage, that Liberalism is a Mental Disease. Today the MSM is engaged in a concerted effort to destroy Karl Rove and George Bush by deliberately lying about what President Bush said about the Rove Investigation and how the President will act after the investigation concludes. They persist in saying that Presidents standards for Rove’s dismissal have changed, even though Bush has been absolutely consistent. Here are the two statements President Bush made back to back, exactly as they were made in response to questions from the press:

George Bush on September 30th, 2003: "If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And uh if the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of."

George Bush on July 18, 2005: "We have a serious ongoing investigation here, and it's being played out in the press, and I think it's best people wait until the investigation is complete before you jump to conclusions. I will do so as well. I don't know all the facts. I want to know all the facts. The best place for the facts to be done is by somebody who is spending time investigating it. I would like this to end as quickly as possible. So we know the facts. And if someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my Administration.”

Now to me and any honest reader of these two statements the only possible conclusion is that President Bush has been scrupulously consistent in what he has said. I ask you, what part of the above statements is in any way ambiguous? You liberals tell me, please. Am I missing something here? Yeah, I thought not.

Okay, having established that President Bush has not changed his stand on how to handle “the Rove Scandal” since the first question asked about it, let’s examine exactly how the “non-biased” Main Stream Media portrays this inflexible, unchanged stance:

Chicago Tribune today, Mark Silva headline says “Bush limits conditions on firing aides in CIA leak”...LIAR!!!

Newsday today, Craig Gordon headline says “Bush changes his firing line. He now says a leaker must have broken the law before he would let him go, a supportive sign for aide Karl Rove”...LIAR!!!

Washington Post today, Dan Froomkin headline says: “A Sidestep and a Backtrack”...LIAR!!!

San Francisco Chronicle today, Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen of the Washington Post headline says, “Bush alters standard for firing in leak case. President says an aide would have had to commit a crime, not just be involved”...LIARS!!!

International Herald Tribune-France today, David Stout of The New York Times “Bush shifts standard for firings in scandal”...LIAR!!!

Minneapolis Star Tribune today, David E. Sanger and Richard W. Stevenson of the New York Times headline says: “CIA leak: Bush seems to raise bar for firing”...LIARS!!!

Finally from CNN.com, this headline: President Bush appeared to backtrack Monday from his 2004 pledge to fire anyone involved in leaking the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame...(need I say it, yes) LIARS!!!

I could go on virtually indefinitely with these quotes, variations on a theme. The theme? I was thinking maybe “Liar” by Three Dog Night. Now all you Liberals tell me once again that there’s no Left-wing bias in the MSM.

The key to this puzzling conundrum is two-fold. First is the motive of the MSM to hang Karl Rove and by implication George Bush. They then combine this motive with the answer President Bush gave to a poorly (or cleverly) worded question asked by an unidentified reporter. The “unbiased media” are basing their claim of an alleged change of stance on the following conversation between a reporter and President Bush on June 10th 2004. “Do you stand by your previous pledge to fire anybody who leaked her name?” President Bush: “Yes, and that’s up to the U.S. attorney to determine the facts.”

For this to be construed to be a change of stance, they have to twist the meaning of President Bush’s answer to that contrived and erroneous question. President Bush is standing by his previous pledge as stated on September 30th, 2003. That pledge was not “to fire anybody who leaked her name,” it was to fire them if they broke the law (committed a crime, for you Liberals).

The only conclusion you can draw from this, is that the MSM is engaged in an unconscionable, intentional, ruthless, deceptive, politically motivated, campaign to destroy Karl Rove and President George Bush through lies and distortions. Clearly this makes them fall into the category of congenital liars.

Democrats on the other hand are falling for this tripe hook, line, and sinker. A quick visit to any of the Left-wing blog sites will give you a good glimpse into the simple minds of the blind followers of the Big Corporate Electronic and Print Media Monolith of the Left. The denizens of those blogs like dailyKos and BoomanTribune live in a complete fantasy world (and I know I’ve said this before) in which they only see what they want to see. They never see what is actually written on the page, unless it suits their purposes.

I have become firmly convinced, that many of them are incapable of reading (not unexpected given the condition to which the Liberals have reduced our education system), or at the very least, incapable of comprehending what they read. Thus they go by whatever they are told by their Liberal friends in the MSM and on the blogs. Because they hate conservatives so much, they rarely associate with them and even when they do, they don’t hear what the conservative is saying because they are so sure the it’s wrong, and they are too busy trying to figure out how to respond when that conservative hits them with the facts.

Hence, they never get but one side of the discussion, so they exist in a complete self-confirming bubble of ignorance and hatred. For them, I guess, ignorance truly is bliss. Perhaps “morons” is a bit strong, but sometimes strong language is the only way to get them to hear what is being said.

As for the “unbiased” MSM you can take all of those headlines, shuffle them and put them in any spot, and there would be no effective difference. This is a unified monolithic group effort to smear and destroy a Presidency. If the Republicans had gotten this much help from the media when Clinton lied to the Grand Jury, he would be wearing orange coveralls today and Hillary would probably be in the next cell.

Ah, but the press didn’t care about Sandy Berger and all those classified files with which he absconded. They didn’t care about the FBI files that Hillary had stashed up there in the White House. They couldn’t have cared less about Clinton’s habitual sexual abuse of the women around him, even when he had been accused, quite credibly, of rape. That was because Billy boy was their President. As with the cozy relationship they had with JFK, they chose to turn a blind eye on everything concerning his misbehavior they could. It was only when the MSM was confronted with Monica’s stained dress and the tapes that Linda Tripp made that they grudgingly turned their attention to investigating Clinton. Even then, they couldn’t control their natural impulse to attack Clinton’s critics.

They demonized Linda Tripp in the cruelest and basest way and once Clinton was found not guilty by the Senate, they dropped the story like a hot rock and went on vilifying Linda Tripp and any one else who criticized the Clintons.

Karl Rove did no wrong. There was no “malicious attempt to smear Wilson” nor was there any counter campaign against Wilson, other than Rove’s warning to Matt Cooper that Wilson was way off base when he implied that he had been sent to Niger at Dick Cheney’s request. Wilson himself had nothing to say about this whole matter until a week or two after joining the Kerry campaign as an advisor.

Then all of the sudden, he decided to write his now thoroughly debunked editorial in the NYT. The press and the Dimocrats are now hanging all of their hopes on l’Affaire Plame-Wilson. The funny thing is that no matter how much proof they are shown by conservatives, the true believers among the Liberals will never believe it. So certain are they of their own rectitude that they are walking willingly-blindly-off a cliff and when any of their conservative friends try to warn them of their folly, they happily sing the refrain of “methinks he doeth protest too much,” refusing to believe anything except that conservatives-Republicans-are getting desperate in their attempt to save a “doomed President.”.

As they are reading this, I guarantee you they are thinking that very thought. They will not see the truth in these words; instead they will read them with contempt. In fact, it is doubtful they will get this far down before they stop reading because deep thought gives them headaches (okay, maybe I made that part up). In their unwavering faith lie the seeds of another Republican victory.

The arrogance of the Left is the source of their ever-deepening downfall. For them, as a conservative, I cannot possibly be correct because I am too ignorant to understand how errant my view of the world is. I am to them “a mind-numb robot” as Rush Limbaugh likes to say, and can only barely walk and talk.

There is no fool like one who believes his own propaganda. I tell you it just gets funnier and funnier.


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To: King Prout

mmmmm hmmm exactamundo


21 posted on 07/19/2005 8:49:43 PM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: CHARLITE

FOOLS AND MORONS....


22 posted on 07/19/2005 8:51:17 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Howlin; MeekOneGOP
I think you'll enjoy this one! - Ping!

Char :)

23 posted on 07/19/2005 8:52:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE
Are Liberals and Their MSM Congenital Liars or Just Morons?

Both, and if they weren't morons then they wouldn't be Leftists.

24 posted on 07/19/2005 8:58:33 PM PDT by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: CHARLITE

Are Liberals and Their MSM Congenital Liars or Just Morons?

Yes. Next question.


25 posted on 07/19/2005 8:58:41 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: ArmedNReady; King Prout
"I think they smell a crow-pie in the oven."

"Yea, but their baking a pie that is so big that it will feed all of the Dems for years."....especially if Fitzgerald traces the roots of this to an original partisan liberal conspiracy concocted by Plame, using ole Joe Yellowcake as her tool to try to sway voters against Bush, and throw a national election to Kerry.

But I think that the plot goes even deeper. I think that Plame's urgency to discredit the Niger-Hussein uranium connection might have involved uranium smuggling by France (at the very least) and possibly specific people at the U.N. whom Plame and Wilson both knew, and were trying to shield by having Wilson go drink sweet mint tea and report back that he "found nothing." Just a guess, but that's what I believe their reason was - both of them!

If that is what the special prosecutor discovers, then it will be a deliciouc sight, watching the Crow Fest among the entire MSM!

Thanks for your comments! Great additions to the thread!

Char :)

26 posted on 07/19/2005 9:07:35 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: Virginia Queen

"Don't insult morons by lumping them with liberals."

heh heh heh. I like that.


27 posted on 07/19/2005 9:10:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: CHARLITE

Great find. Great post. Thanks.


28 posted on 07/19/2005 9:15:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: CHARLITE

I believe Liberalism is a mental illness that is incurable.


29 posted on 07/19/2005 9:19:43 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: CHARLITE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ArmedNReady

I'm just hoping that all this bogus screeching over "outing" a (non-)covert CIA desk-jockey comes back to bite Kerry on the ass, vis a vis (Kerry likes French, right?) his outing of a real CIA officer live on C-Span a few months ago


30 posted on 07/19/2005 9:22:27 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: CHARLITE
Are Liberals and Their MSM Congenital Liars or Just Morons?

Congenital morons is my vote.

31 posted on 07/19/2005 9:23:32 PM PDT by Marauder (Those cretins who target innocent civilians are evil incarnate.)
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To: ArmedNReady
Yeah, they are taking an extra dose of =


32 posted on 07/19/2005 9:25:00 PM PDT by timestax
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To: CHARLITE
"The arrogance of the Left is the source of their ever-deepening downfall. For them, as a conservative, I cannot possibly be correct because I am too ignorant to understand how errant my view of the world is."

There it is...

33 posted on 07/19/2005 9:30:55 PM PDT by Khurkris (The typhoon has passed. Its been raining for 3 days. My tagline is soggy.)
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To: CHARLITE

I’m beginning to agree with Michael Savage, that Liberalism is a Mental Disease

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


34 posted on 07/19/2005 9:35:34 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: CHARLITE
. . . that person will be taken care of.

I suspect that Karl Rove is still being taken care of.

heh heh heh

35 posted on 07/19/2005 9:37:53 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: CHARLITE

Great article.


36 posted on 07/19/2005 9:57:27 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: CHARLITE
"I have become firmly convinced, that many of them are incapable of reading (not unexpected given the condition to which the Liberals have reduced our education system), or at the very least, incapable of comprehending what they read. Thus they go by whatever they are told by their Liberal friends in the MSM and on the blogs. Because they hate conservatives so much, they rarely associate with them and even when they do, they don’t hear what the conservative is saying because they are so sure the it’s wrong, and they are too busy trying to figure out how to respond when that conservative hits them with the facts."

You know, I may be the only one to say this, but this is one reason I don't care for the immediate troll blasting I've seen here. Most of us would consider ourselves fairly intelligent and able to discuss issues with anyone who comes along. Blasting DU trolls seems to be the easy way out. Convincing them to think other than they do is tougher and requies more effort. After all, any visit to DU shows that most of them do nothing other than quote each other or say what they think they are supposed to think. Is it naive of me to think maybe if we were a bit more congenial, we could teach them something?

37 posted on 07/19/2005 10:02:43 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: CHARLITE

They're Evil because their very being depends upon holding coercive political POWER (or closely-related dominant media power) over the rest of us. They cannot often earn livings outside of politics and the MSM echo-chamber & self-reinforcing academic-talking head parallel reality world.


38 posted on 07/19/2005 10:30:13 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: CHARLITE
The MSM obsession all started in the 2000 campaign with the RATS ad. 2 weeks of coverage over one ad that someone slowed down to make it look like Bush was calling them rats.
39 posted on 07/19/2005 10:42:51 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: aviator

I think Michael Savage is basically correct.

See related post re Media and blowhard (Wilson/Plame) "Blowback":

"Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?"


40 posted on 07/19/2005 10:43:25 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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