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Group Seeks Inquiry Into London Bombings
Guardian ^ | 07/20/05 | ED JOHNSON

Posted on 07/20/2005 1:21:14 PM PDT by Pikamax

Group Seeks Inquiry Into London Bombings

Wednesday July 20, 2005 8:31 PM

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By ED JOHNSON

Associated Press Writer

LONDON (AP) - Britain's Muslim leaders demanded a judicial inquiry Wednesday into what motivated the four ``homegrown'' suicide bombers who targeted London, as Prime Minister Tony Blair proposed an international conference on rooting out Islamic extremism.

The government said all 56 people known to have died in the bombings of three subway trains and a bus have now been identified, but Home Secretary Charles Clarke warned the number could rise.

Twenty-seven people remained hospitalized, several in critical condition. Police also have not ruled out the possibility of finding more bodies in the mangled wreckage of a train that is still in a deep tunnel near King's Cross station.

In Pakistan, an intelligence official said investigators there arrested a man who had direct links to the July 7 bombings, and investigators used telephone numbers provided by Britain to determine who may have had contact with the bombers.

Three of the bombers, all Britons of Pakistani descent, traveled last year to Karachi in southern Pakistan, where officials are trying to determine whether they received training from extremists.

Blair has also sought the help of Britain's Muslim community. He met Tuesday with 25 community leaders, who have agreed to form a task force to take on the radical voice of Islam.

Sadiq Khan, a Muslim lawmaker in Blair's Labour Party, said the group was still in an embryonic stage and would address issues such as the standard of religious education, the role of the media, political participation by British Muslims and social deprivation.

Leaders warned, however, that the Muslim community alone could not eliminate extremism and called for an independent judicial probe into what may have motivated the bombers.

``The scale of disenchantment amongst Muslim youth is very clear to see,'' said Inayat Bungalwala of the Muslim Council of Britain. ``Various factors are at play: underachievement in education; a high rate of unemployment; discrimination in the workplace; social exclusion, and also the government's own policies, especially in Iraq.

``The process of how we get four homegrown suicide bombers must be understood and that is why we are calling for an inquiry.''

The demand for an inquiry appeared to reflect Muslim concerns about the impact of social problems in their communities even as they seek to distance themselves from the attacks and any form of extremism.

Terrorism experts have said since the bombings that examining the suspects' mobile phone records from the months before the attacks would be a crucial part of the investigation.

The Guardian newspaper reported that a mobile phone number linked one of the July 7 suspects to a foiled terror plot last year - an alleged conspiracy to detonate a fertilizer bomb in London.

And Pakistani intelligence officials said authorities were working through some 100 telephone numbers provided by their British counterparts, checking for possible links with the suicide bombers.

Twenty of those numbers, which included both land-lines and cell phones, were still under investigation, said the officials, who did not want to be named because of the secret nature of their work.

They said Britain also provided names of several people in Pakistan who allegedly received calls from the suicide bombers over the past year. Scotland Yard declined to comment.

A point of focus in the investigation has been a religious school linked to militant groups in the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore. Security officials believe 22-year-old suspected bomber Shahzad Tanweer visited the school.

Blair said he had talked recently with Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf about tackling extremist teaching at religious schools known as madrassas - and proposed an international conference to explore the issue.

``We all know the roots of this go very, very deep,'' he told the House of Commons, adding the conference would focus on taking ``concerted action right across the world to try to root out this type extremist teaching.''

Blair's official spokesman said there was no date, venue or list of who would attend, but suggested it would include leading Muslim figures and governments from across the world.

There are about 2 million Muslims in Britain, and the overwhelming majority are moderate in their views. But extremist groups have been active in recent years, distributing inflammatory leaflets outside mosques.

Blair's government is trying to build consensus among political parties, Muslim leaders and security chiefs on how to respond to the attacks.

His top law enforcement official, Clarke, outlined anti-terrorism measures he hopes will become law by the year's end. The legislation will outlaw ``indirect incitement'' of terrorism, targeting extremist clerics who glorify violence and radicalize impressionable Muslim youth.

Attending terrorist training camps in Britain or abroad will be illegal, as will ``acts preparatory to terrorism.'' Buying chemicals, or researching bomb-making on the Internet, for example, would be covered under the law.

Clarke said intelligence officials would also compile a database of suspected extremists who should be barred from entering Britain for ``unacceptable behavior'' such as radical preaching, running extremist Web sites and writing articles that could foment terrorism. Blair is to meet with intelligence and security chiefs Thursday to see if they require further powers.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: appeasers; axisofappeasement; islamaniacs; islamokazis; koranimals; londonattacked; trop; whiningwahabbists

1 posted on 07/20/2005 1:21:14 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

More on how "what we might learn about their motivation could justify what they do." Please....gag me with a teetertotter.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 1:23:27 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Pikamax

When will the British learn it's all their fault. Do they really need an inquiry when any local imam can tell them that?


3 posted on 07/20/2005 1:26:07 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Pikamax

>>Britain's Muslim leaders demanded a judicial inquiry Wednesday into what motivated the four ``homegrown'' suicide bombers who targeted London<<
Here's the answer: YOUR RELIGION.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 1:33:02 PM PDT by travlnmn41
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To: anniegetyourgun
Britain's Muslim leaders demanded a judicial inquiry Wednesday into what motivated the four ``homegrown'' suicide bombers who targeted London,

You know, study the tactics, delivery, and scope of the attack and see if it can improved upon....Sheesh, how stupid do they think we are??

The above statement is like Hillary Clinton announcing an ethics investigation into Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate....

6 posted on 07/20/2005 1:33:38 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Senate Dems- striving for a level of petulance and immaturity seen only in pre schools..)
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To: Pikamax
"Various factors are at play: underachievement in education; a high rate of unemployment; discrimination in the workplace; social exclusion, and also the government's own policies, especially in Iraq."

Ok, Mr. Muslim, would you accept this hypothetical rationale for an attck on a British mosque: "There were various factors at play: a high rate of unemployment; educational underachievement; the government's immigration policies; and a fear of Muslims fostered by worldwide Muslim terrorism, by Muslim hatred of non-Muslims, and by repeated Muslim threats against Western institutions." Fair enough?
7 posted on 07/20/2005 1:57:00 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: cardinal4
"You know, study the tactics, delivery, and scope of the attack and see if it can improved upon....Sheesh, how stupid do they think we are??"

That's not the kind of investigation he's calling for. He doesn't want to study the methods of the bombers, or how the plan unfolded. His other comments make it clear he wants to explain the bombing as an understandable reaction to discrimination against Muslims, to unemployment, and to British foreign policy in Iraq. Basically, he wants to claim this has nothing to do with Islam and is all Britain's fault.
8 posted on 07/20/2005 2:01:50 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
Basically, he wants to claim this has nothing to do with Islam and is all Britain's fault.

Then he is too late, self recrimination and "blame Britain first" began shortly after last bomb. The friggin' BeeB wont even use the word terrorist! At least we arent that bad here....yet.

9 posted on 07/20/2005 2:04:40 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Senate Dems- striving for a level of petulance and immaturity seen only in pre schools..)
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To: travlnmn41
"Here's the answer: YOUR RELIGION."

He's clearly counting on British Leftists to bail him out and blame the whole thing on Blair, on the war in Iraq, on unemployment, on discrimination against Muslims, blah blah blah. And that's probably exactly what they'd do. The public will see through it, but the unintelligentsia will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
10 posted on 07/20/2005 2:05:45 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Pikamax

Well it's not fair,,,, these British homocide bombers don't have planes or tanks too fight with....... /sarc off


Jeff


11 posted on 07/20/2005 2:07:50 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com
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To: Pikamax
what a complete waste of resources - and a masterful attempt at misdirection

a more useful line of inquiry would be to investigate all of the factors that enabled this event, in order to broaden the dragnet and eliminate the contributing factors and enablers.

For example, et freakin' cetera!
12 posted on 07/20/2005 2:08:05 PM PDT by CzarChasm (My opinion. No charge.)
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To: CzarChasm
This is simple, they are Muslims, and that means they represent a religion of murder and terrorism.
If you want clarification go to your local raghead religious services and listen to them rant about killing all non believers.
You can read their Idol worship holy book, it very clearly covers that they can rape, kill, lie, or anything else they want to in the name of Allah.
If you don't believe me, it is there for you to read. I can not understand why so many people choose not to listen to what they say. I listen to them, and I believe that they fully intend to try and do exactly what they are telling the world that they are going to do. I believe that that constitutes a direct threat to the lives of each and every non believer. So killing them should be considered a matter of self defense. Lock and load and make them glow
13 posted on 07/20/2005 3:07:37 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: CzarChasm

100% correct. Why waste time and money on a stupid inquiry?

As Howard Stern once said (in response to OJ's search for the real killer) "I know who did it. It was you, OJ."

We know who did it. We know what has to be done. Take out the terrorist villages and their financiers.


14 posted on 07/20/2005 11:29:43 PM PDT by KingofZion
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