Posted on 07/22/2005 6:32:59 AM PDT by Heebert
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House voted by a wide margin Thursday night to renew expiring provisions of the USA Patriot Act, the collection of antiterrorism measures passed after the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The final vote was 257-171. The bill makes permanent 14 of 16 provisions in the act set to expire next year and extends two others for another 10 years.
Passage came with the specter of terrorism fresh in lawmakers' minds after another round of bombing incidents in London earlier in the day. (Full story)
The Senate is considering its own reauthorization of the Patriot Act, and the differences between the two versions will have to be hashed out in a conference committee in the coming months.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
I will never blindly trust govt...but in http://www.lifeandliberty.gov, they do a good job of dispelling many ACLU-bred myths about the Patriot Act.
I'm as cognizant of my rights and liberties as anyone and I'm not terribly concerned about it.
Who needs that superfluous judicial review?
There's still judicial review under ALL circumstances.....AND there's also legislative oversight under ALL circumstances. Yes, even "sneak and peek" warrants are issued by a judge.
Yeah... passing crap like this is a lot easier than doing anything effective. Like unchaining a law abiding citizens Second Amendment Rights.
I bet my DTABOR* Congresswuss Russ Carnahan voted against it. If he did, he cleared it with Planned Parenthood. They own him.
*Dumber Than A Box Of Rocks
Yes, let's take the one thing most responsible for the erosion of the 4th Amendment and make it worse.
My concern is not so much from the caterwauling Left, but from many GOP'ers.
There is a high level of mistrust about the Patriot Act, one that seems to border on "black helicopters" paranoia.
I suspect that if we were to have suffered another 9/11-style attack (and didn't have the Patriot Act), many of those on the Right who are now criticizing the Patriot Act would be screaming "Why the f*** didn't the govt know about this terror plot?!"
Let me get this straight. You're trusting what a government run site says about legislation that the government wants to pass?!? I'm not a tin-foil sort but I also recognize what sort of power this would eventually be in the hands of the government
"England has no Patriot Act and things sure haven't worked out for them. "
Is this sarcasm or subtle irony? England's existing legal controls on their government give them vastly more power to monitor, arrest, surveille, etc their subjects than the US has with patriot act or without. The british are the most monitored people on earth, and they still cannot stop this stuff. If the patriot act were passing in britain, as you imply would be helpful, it would be a tremendous restriction on their current powers. Why would you want to do that, given the pro-Patriot Act tone of your post?
some of us might be saying 'why didn't we exercise s MINIMUM of border control effort?'
The fact Fedgov will not do that despite overwhelming support for it tells you where their priorities are with regard to the entry of undocumented illegals.
Nowhere in my previous post did I disagree with exercising a minimum of border control effort.
I'm in absolute favor of total border control.
A government website dispelling myths about a bill that expands government power? Sorry, but your trust of government couldn't be any more blind.
No, you're wrong.
I cite this source as being quite believable.
OTOH, your paranoia (of which Imentioned in a later post) quite blinds you to the truth of the Patriot Act.
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