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One In Four Muslims Sympathises With Motives Of Terrorists
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-23-2005 | Anthony King

Posted on 07/22/2005 6:21:02 PM PDT by blam

One in four Muslims sympathises with motives of terrorists

By Anthony King
(Filed: 23/07/2005)

The group portrait of British Muslims painted by YouGov's survey for The Daily Telegraph is at once reassuring and disturbing, in some ways even alarming.

The vast majority of British Muslims condemn the London bombings but a substantial minority are clearly alienated from modern British society and some are prepared to justify terrorist acts.

The divisions within the Muslim community go deep. Muslims are divided over the morality of the London bombings, over the extent of their loyalty to this country and over how Muslims should respond to recent events.

Most Muslims are evidently moderate and law-abiding but by no means all are.

YouGov sought to gauge the character of the Muslim community's response to the events of July 7. As the figures in the chart show, 88 per cent of British Muslims clearly have no intention of trying to justify the bus and Tube murders.

However, six per cent insist that the bombings were, on the contrary, fully justified.

Six per cent may seem a small proportion but in absolute numbers it amounts to about 100,000 individuals who, if not prepared to carry out terrorist acts, are ready to support those who do.

Moreover, the proportion of YouGov's respondents who, while not condoning the London attacks, have some sympathy with the feelings and motives of those who carried them out is considerably larger - 24 per cent.

A substantial majority, 56 per cent, say that, whether or not they sympathise with the bombers, they can at least understand why some people might want to behave in this way.

YouGov also asked whether or not its Muslim respondents agreed or disagreed with Tony Blair's description of the ideas and ideology of the London bombers as "perverted and poisonous".

Again, while a large majority, 58 per cent, agree with him, a substantial minority, 26 per cent, are reluctant to be so dismissive.

The responses indicate that Muslim men are more likely than Muslim women to be alienated from the mainstream and that the young are more likely to be similarly alienated than the old.

However, there are few signs in YouGov's findings that Muslims of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are any more disaffected than their co-religionists from elsewhere.

The sheer scale of Muslim alienation from British society that the survey reveals is remarkable. Although a large majority of British Muslims are more than content to make their home in this country, a significant minority are not.

For example, YouGov asked respondents how loyal they feel towards Britain. As the figures in the chart show, the great majority say they feel "very loyal" (46 per cent) or "fairly loyal" (33 per cent) but nearly one British Muslim in five, 18 per cent, feels little loyalty towards this country or none at all.

If these findings are accurate, and they probably are, well over 100,000 British Muslims feel no loyalty whatsoever towards this country.

The proportion of men who say they feel no loyalty to Britain is more than three times the proportion of women saying the same.

Equally remarkable are YouGov's findings concerning many Muslims' attitudes towards Western society and culture.

YouGov asked respondents how they feel about Western society and how, if at all, they feel Muslims should adapt to it. A majority, 56 per cent, believe "Western society may not be perfect but Muslims should live with it and not seek to bring it to an end".

However, nearly a third of British Muslims, 32 per cent, are far more censorious, believing that "Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end".

Among those who hold this view, almost all go on to say that Muslims should only seek to bring about change by non-violent means but one per cent, about 16,000 individuals, declare themselves willing, possibly even eager, to embrace violence.

Yet again, far more men than women and far more young people than their elders evince this kind of hostility towards the world around them. In addition, tens of thousands of Muslims view the whole of Britain's political establishment with suspicion.

More than half of those interviewed, 52 per cent, believe "British political leaders don't mean it when they talk about equality. They regard the lives of white British people as more valuable than the lives of British Muslims".

Almost as many, 50 per cent, reckon the main party leaders are not being sincere when they say they respect Islam and want to co-operate with Britain's Muslim communities.

Despite Tony Blair's well-publicised efforts to reach out to Muslims, fewer than half of those interviewed, 42 per cent, approve of the way he has handled Britain's response to the July 7 events.

Many British Muslims are probably reluctant to give Mr Blair credit for anything at all following his complicity with America, as they see it, in launching the invasion of Iraq. Just more than half, 52 per cent, are impressed by the performance since the bombings of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Great Britain. Some Muslims' discontent with Britain clearly extends to discontent with the existing moderate and pro-British Muslim leadership.

A cloud of suspicion also hangs over Britain's judicial system.

YouGov asked its Muslim respondents whether or not they thought anyone charged and taken to court in connection with the July 7 attacks would receive a fair trial. Only 37 per cent said yes. The rest reckon he or she would not or were doubtful that they would.

Despite these widespread doubts, a large majority of Britain's Muslims clearly believe the time has come when Muslims must shoulder their share of the responsibility for preventing and punishing terrorist crimes such as those in London.

As the figures in the chart show, roughly a third of Muslims reckon they should assume "a great deal" of the responsibility and another third reckon they should assume at least "some" of it.

Even more impressive in some ways is the fact that large numbers now say they are prepared to put their mouth where their feelings are.

As the figures in the chart show, almost three quarters of British Mulsims, 73 per cent, say they would inform the police if they believed that someone they knew or knew of might be planning a terrorist attack.

Nearly half, 47 per cent, say they would also go to the police if they believed an imam or other religious person was trying to radicalise young Muslims by preaching hatred against the West.

Not only that but 70 per cent of Muslims reckon they have a duty to go to the police if they "see something in the community that makes them feel suspicious".

Taken as a whole, the findings of YouGov's survey suggest that, although large numbers of British Muslims dislike British society and in some cases may be tempted to attack it, the great majority are loyal and law-abiding and are unlikely to provide the radicals with moral support, let alone safe havens.

YouGov interviewed 526 Muslim adults across Great Britain online between July 15 and yesterday. The data were weighted to reflect the composition of Britain's Muslim population by gender, age and country of birth.


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1 posted on 07/22/2005 6:21:03 PM PDT by blam
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One In Four Muslims Sympathises With Motives Of Terrorists

Sometimes it only takes one.
2 posted on 07/22/2005 6:24:01 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider

So, 325 million muslims are against us?


3 posted on 07/22/2005 6:26:28 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: blam

Looks like we have a lot of work to do....start passin out the ammo!


4 posted on 07/22/2005 6:26:50 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Das Outsider
"One In Four Muslims Sympathises With Motives Of Terrorists"

"Sometimes it only takes one."

Yup. You're probably correct. See below.

One In Four Americans Would Use Nukes Against Terrorists, Gallup Finds

5 posted on 07/22/2005 6:27:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: Das Outsider

My dear wife, who is ever so much smarter than me, observed that British hooligans are not to be trifled with.

They commit mob murder at soccer games, and these Muslims better watch out.. Somewhere, in a pub over Guiness, a bunch
of hooligans are planning how to wipe out the towelheads.

She doesn't think the mosques will be a sanctuary once the mobs get rolling.


6 posted on 07/22/2005 6:27:30 PM PDT by plangent
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To: Fitzcarraldo
So, 325 million muslims are against us?

No. The survey was only applied to British Muslims. I'm sure Pakistan's would have been 5 out of 4.
7 posted on 07/22/2005 6:28:29 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: blam

bump to self


8 posted on 07/22/2005 6:29:06 PM PDT by FierceKulak
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To: blam

As the figures in the chart show, almost three quarters of British Mulsims, 73 per cent, say they would inform the police if they believed that someone they knew or knew of might be planning a terrorist attack.

Nearly half, 47 per cent, say they would also go to the police if they believed an imam or other religious person was trying to radicalise young Muslims by preaching hatred against the West.

Not only that but 70 per cent of Muslims reckon they have a duty to go to the police if they "see something in the community that makes them feel suspicious".

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Well that leaves somewhere between 53% to 30% who would NOT inform the Police, inform on an Imam, or report something suspicious! That's a lot of people!!


9 posted on 07/22/2005 6:29:44 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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Well, Great Britain just enacted a law that enables them to deport you if you are suspected of supporting terrorists.


10 posted on 07/22/2005 6:31:48 PM PDT by Eva
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To: blam

Of course, this assumes they are answering the survey truthfully. The professional terrorist would smile and lie about his/her intentions. Methinks the percentage of sympathizers is much higher.


12 posted on 07/22/2005 6:32:42 PM PDT by rbg81
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well maybe the other 3 will take notice when people are calling for internment camps after they strike us again


13 posted on 07/22/2005 6:32:50 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: plangent
She doesn't think the mosques will be a sanctuary once the mobs get rolling.



Neither do I.
14 posted on 07/22/2005 6:34:51 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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I find it awfully odd that after 4 years of condemning terrorism they still havent managed to stumble across one terrorist they could turn in and prove something.


15 posted on 07/22/2005 6:35:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: blam

britain and europe have less integrated societies than the states.

i've known a lot of arabs and persians from all of their countries during college and since. some i have gotten to know very well. invited over for dinner, holidays, etc.

but even my good persian friends, upper middle class iranians with money, in graduate school here, owners of businesses here, etc., even they would admit when you caught them in a candid moment, that they resented this country.


16 posted on 07/22/2005 6:37:09 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: blam

Allowing Muslims to immigrate into your country is like allowing yourself to be injected with cancer cells.


17 posted on 07/22/2005 6:37:45 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: blam

One in four, eh? 100,000 muslims against the UK's notorious "Football hooligans"? Sounds like a very unfair fight....for the muslims! Hehehehe. Rip 'em up, mates!


18 posted on 07/22/2005 6:39:17 PM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of ALL mankind.....)
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To: blam

We're all decadant and immoral - so why do they all want to live in our countries? They don't like freedom, right? They don't like modern conveniences, having a job and money and houses, right? I figure if I hated the people in my country, I wouldn't stay there. Say one thing, do another.


19 posted on 07/22/2005 6:39:39 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: plangent
My dear wife, who is ever so much smarter than me, observed that British hooligans are not to be trifled with.

I've heard stories about the Brazilian and Argentinian hooligans that will make many Brit hooligans look like polite gentlemen. Not to be disrespectful, of course.
20 posted on 07/22/2005 6:39:48 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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