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After 60 years, debate over fluoride still rages
North Jersey Newspapers ^
| 07.24.05
| COLLEEN DISKIN
Posted on 07/24/2005 9:38:22 PM PDT by Coleus
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posted on
07/24/2005 9:38:23 PM PDT
by
Coleus
To: Coleus
To: Coleus
To: Coleus
"I can no longer sit idly by and allow the Communists to fluoridate our water and sap our precious bodily fluids"
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posted on
07/24/2005 9:49:50 PM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
To: Coleus; All
"It was 60 years ago that fluoride was first added to a drinking water supply in the United States to prevent tooth decay."
Horse pucky... it was done to have a use for the waste products from aluminum production. Flame away...
To: Coleus
The toxicity of fluorine relates to its ridiculous affinity for calcium and other ions in the same family. Given trace quantities of fluoride and the natural relative abundance of calcium in the body, it is really difficult to get enough fluorine ion in the body to cause secondary damage of any type without consuming all the free calcium first. Indeed, calcium depletion is the typical cause of death for fluorine poisoning, and the antidote is also a soluble calcium/magnesium in the blood stream, though frequently insufficient (fluorine poisoning is nasty, nasty business -- very aggressive).
Any other neurotoxic effects would be hard to come by without engineering that outcome. Fluoride is way too greedy for type II elements, which exist in relative abundance in our bodies.
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posted on
07/24/2005 9:55:01 PM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: SteveMcKing
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posted on
07/24/2005 9:59:19 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Coleus
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posted on
07/24/2005 10:06:03 PM PDT
by
Jaysun
(Democrats are motivated mainly and perhaps almost wholly on envy.)
To: Coleus
[Others concede that fluoride might have benefits when used topically, but they believe people should be allowed to choose whether they want to use fluoride toothpaste and treatments - and not be forced to ingest treated water.]
If people don't want to drink the fluorinated and chlorinated municipal water then they shouldn't have to. They can drink the stuff out of the creek everyday and enjoy water as nature intended it to be.
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posted on
07/24/2005 10:07:00 PM PDT
by
spinestein
(The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
To: Coleus
[Offers a cheap way for phosphate fertilizer companies to dispose of the fluoride that is a waste product of their operations.]
The article lists this as an "anti" in the fluoride debate.
I would put saving money in the "pro" column.
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posted on
07/24/2005 10:10:14 PM PDT
by
spinestein
(The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
To: Coleus
The stuff oozing out of your friendly tube of Crest is basically the same kryptonite-like pesticide "Vikane." They use this stuff to tent-nuke termites infestations. mmmmmm... Stay away from evil fluoride!
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posted on
07/24/2005 10:17:15 PM PDT
by
Antioch
(St. Jerome: "Beauty when unadorned is adorned the most.")
To: Coleus
It is just another way that Politicians have of separating you from your Money, Like Mass Transit and Light Rail etc etc etc
To: Coleus
Nasty is as nasty does. I'd like to see some of these grubbers in the same cellblock as Ebbers...
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posted on
07/24/2005 10:27:04 PM PDT
by
185JHP
( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
To: 185JHP
The spirit of fear sells books, promotes a person, and totally distorts the good fluoride does for us. I have been a dentist for decades and watched this debate. I have practiced dentistry in well fluoridated communities and non fluoridated communities. The devastation to the teeth of the young children is sad in the communities that are not properly fluoridated. Those medical and dental professionals that use their degree to write and sell books for profit that are totally non science have done us all a great disservice, whether it is about fluoride, cancer treatments, or UFOs. Fluoride at the proper concentration is not a problem. It is strange that the same people that do not like fluoride have no problem with adding the very strong poison chlorine to our public water.
To: tongass kid
Does the funding of "research" by organizations that receive money from people who want to sell for profit an otherwise useless industrial byproduct mean anything to you?
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posted on
07/24/2005 11:29:23 PM PDT
by
185JHP
( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
To: SteveMcKing
"Women sense my power. They seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence." -- General Jack D. Ripper
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posted on
07/24/2005 11:33:54 PM PDT
by
Euro-American Scum
(A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
To: 185JHP
Yes it does. The initial research was not done by those that had a product to sell, but was completed by those that first observed the benefit received by those that enjoyed naturally occurring fluoride in their drinking water. Over the decades of this debate, the overwhelming quantity and quality of research as been accomplished within the dental community. Do you have an anti fluoride or UFO book you would like to sell me?
To: 185JHP
Yes it does. The initial research was not done by those that had a product to sell, but was completed by those that first observed the benefit received by those that enjoyed naturally occurring fluoride in their drinking water. Over the decades of this debate, the overwhelming quantity and quality of research as been accomplished within the dental community. Do you have an anti fluoride or UFO book you would like to sell me?
To: Jaysun
Banjo player in Deliverence? Or "Hill" people?
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posted on
07/25/2005 12:03:38 AM PDT
by
Finalapproach29er
(America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
To: Coleus
Not sure on the Flouride but I had all my Mercury fillings replaced with nice white ones (and a few gold).
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