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Ban Has Denver Pit Bulls Marked for Death,Owners Say Only Choice Is Leave Town or Become a Criminal
ABC news ^ | 7.27.05 | By DEAN SCHABNER

Posted on 07/27/2005 10:25:34 AM PDT by meandog

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To: Tacis

If you were trying for funny, you missed.


21 posted on 07/27/2005 10:52:07 AM PDT by acad1228 (Free The West Memphis Three!!!)
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To: meandog

I like checking out these pit bull threads to how many "pit bulls are a dog of peace" replies crop up.


22 posted on 07/27/2005 10:53:25 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: Skooz

Just Google "dog attacked killed" and watch the thousands of hits on pit bulls.

Sheeple, my butt.


23 posted on 07/27/2005 10:53:34 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: meandog

IMHO, they should grandfather current owners.


24 posted on 07/27/2005 10:53:34 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

I agree, they should grandather current owners, with the requirement that the dogs be neutered or spayed. I suppose they are banning them though because it will be easier to enforce if they are just banned.


25 posted on 07/27/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: meandog

Profiling saves lives, whether it's profiling potential terrorists or potentially vicious dog breeds.


26 posted on 07/27/2005 10:56:51 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: L98Fiero

Of course, being a sheeple, you have no idea that every short haired dog who bites someone is identified as a "pit bull" by the shiny box that tells you what to think.


27 posted on 07/27/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT by Skooz (Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
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To: Rodney King

What about a half-bulldog that looks like a pit. Or one from the same litter that looks more like the labrador?


28 posted on 07/27/2005 10:59:52 AM PDT by glock rocks (give a man a program - frustrate him for a day... teach a man to program - frustrate him for life.)
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To: American Quilter
I support the ban. Too many pit bulls have attacked too many people and pets. They're just doing what comes naturally, but that doesn't mean they're not a menace. Even the most conscientious owner can make a mistake--dogs get out, or the owner is too sure HIS dog would never attack another animal or person, or a kid gets into the dog's yard.

Would you also support bans on hazardous jobs such as police work or firefighting...how about being a Marine or Soldier in Iraq? I disagree that conscientious owners can make mistakes Just as responsible gun owners should keep firearms out the hands of children, "conscientious" so-called pitbull owners should keep their pets isolated from the public if they cannot control them. (Responsible owners, however, would ensure their dogs are under voice control at all times and places).

29 posted on 07/27/2005 11:00:14 AM PDT by meandog (FOR LURKING DUers)
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To: flair2000

Does this mean I'll have to get rid of my pond with the Pirranhas and Water Mocassins.

I mean, they are really great pets, and they'd never hurt anyone.

They're great with kids, especially Fuzzy, the 3 footer...


30 posted on 07/27/2005 11:00:19 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: meandog
I don't like pit-bulls and I'm not an owner but this law is ridiculous.

I'm a dog owner and I can't imagine the state forcing me to move or kill my dog just because the breed has higher than usual incidents. My dog is like a member of the family.

I understand the ban but there should be a way to allow current owners to keep their dogs. Like not giving new licenses for pit-bulls or requiring them to be muzzled when in public areas.
31 posted on 07/27/2005 11:00:39 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Skooz

France = Poodle
English Bulldog = UK
Pitbull = America


32 posted on 07/27/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by nvcdl
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To: American Quilter; meandog
There's a problem with your reasoning, AQ.

First of all, the media are beating this drum, and as you know they are not above twisting the facts or outright lying to support their agenda. There are plenty of cases where the media reported a dog attack as a "pit bull attack" - and it later turned out the dog was not a PB at all - in one case around here, it was a Lab mix. There's a case winding its way through the courts here where a Golden Retriever took off a child's face. It was first broadcast on the TV as a "pit bull attack" because the EMTs and police just assumed it "had" to be a pit bull from the damage.

Second, "pit bull" is not a breed but a type. There are a couple of registered breeds that are considered true to the "type" -- but I think you'll find that the registered dogs are not the problem. Which leads us to:

Third, the Denver law allows the confiscation of any dog that "looks like" a pit bull. Taken in conjunction with (2), that means that some yahoo (maybe an incompetent government employee, maybe a neighbor with a grudge against you) can just SAY that your dog "looks like a pit bull", take it away without compensation, and gas it.

Finally, the problem is not the dogs but the owners. The gangsta types that want a "mean dog" had German Shepherds a long time ago (of course then they were just mean country boys). Then it was Dobermanns, then Rottweilers. Now it's "pit bulls". If PBs are banned, the gangstas will simply breed another type of dog for meanness and mistreat them until they attack.

I'm sure you're well intentioned, but you're falling for the media line and you haven't thought the problems through. It's actually the same sort of thinking that brought us gun control -- distract from the real problem (bad people) by whipping up hysteria about property used by the bad people, because it's so much easier to take property away from the law abiding people than it is to prosecute the criminals (who shoot back). (They never get around to taking the property in question away from the bad people though -- just the law-abiding.)

33 posted on 07/27/2005 11:03:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: L98Fiero
Just Google "dog attacked killed" and watch the thousands of hits on pit bulls.

Is it possible that the reason there are so many reports on pit bulls is because that particular breed is focused on by the MSM?

"Child is Attacked By Poodle!" just does not carry the same level of excitement. Sex, oops, excitement sells.

34 posted on 07/27/2005 11:07:02 AM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: L98Fiero
Just Google "dog attacked killed" and watch the thousands of hits on pit bulls.

Nice try...I Googled and found that the first five stories mentioned nothing about a pitbull...
I.e., first hit: "According to police, the dogs were an American bulldog, a Johnson bulldog, a Neapolitan mastiff and a border collie. Officials said Fiscus knew the dogs and had even fed them in the past.
The next hit mentioned "chained dog," then a wolf-hybrid, a German Shepherd Dog, etc.

35 posted on 07/27/2005 11:08:50 AM PDT by meandog (FOR LURKING DUers)
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To: L98Fiero
See my post 33.

You can't rely on the media to report this truthfully. It's gotten to the point that any dog that bites somebody is reported as a "pit bull" or "pit bull mix". Often this turns out to be completely wrong, but that doesn't make the news.

Don't understand why the average FReeper is ordinarily so suspicious of the mainstream media, but when it comes to the Pit Bull Menace is completely credulous and believes the media implicitly.

36 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:16 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Rodney King
I agree, they should grandather current owners, with the requirement that the dogs be neutered or spayed. I suppose they are banning them though because it will be easier to enforce if they are just banned.

I think they should force current owners to license their dogs, not allow any more licensing after the cutoff date, and then fine anyone whose unlicensed dog is involved in an incident.

37 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:42 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: AnAmericanMother
Don't understand why the average FReeper is ordinarily so suspicious of the mainstream media, but when it comes to the Pit Bull Menace is completely credulous and believes the media implicitly.

You said it better than I did.

38 posted on 07/27/2005 11:12:04 AM PDT by Skooz (Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
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To: politicalwit

interesting point!


39 posted on 07/27/2005 11:20:02 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (blood bought, spirit filled, born again ... a new life in Christ.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

"Don't understand why the average FReeper is ordinarily so suspicious of the mainstream media, but when it comes to the Pit Bull Menace is completely credulous and believes the media implicitly."

I don't understand why so many FReepers believe that if people form opinions based on lots of solid evidence instead of a couple of FReeper rantings, they are "sheeple".

Am I to believe that news orgainizations across the country have wittingly conspired to rid the country of the Pit Bull? DU level conspiracy crap.


40 posted on 07/27/2005 11:20:52 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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